Jonathan Schertzer
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I am based out of Southern California, And my question really isn't about the business aspect. I understand business very well, i understand sales margin, cost, expenses. But none of those are my question, my question is about the QUALITY of photography. Obviously expenses Come into play, but you wouldn't pay someone who has only been shooting for a couple weeks(who is really bad at photography) $3,000 to shoot a wedding, because their equipment costs $10,000, and their travel and food is $1,000, Would you? You are forgetting that regardless of expenses, SKILL determines a lot too.
No, actually I'm not forgetting anything. If you were as conversant with business as you claim to be, than you would know that skill isn't really related to price. You can either do the job or not. Granted those that can do a better job often get paid more, but until you have established a base price you can't determine where you should be to start. With respect to the images you have (and for future reference, you will get a much better response by posting the images in the thread rather than by posting links. Many of our members are not terribly fond of clicking outside links), I agree with Tyler; they're not really where they need to be.I am based out of Southern California, And my question really isn't about the business aspect. I understand business very well, i understand sales margin, cost, expenses. But none of those are my question, my question is about the QUALITY of photography. Obviously expenses Come into play, but you wouldn't pay someone who has only been shooting for a couple weeks(who is really bad at photography) $3,000 to shoot a wedding, because their equipment costs $10,000, and their travel and food is $1,000, Would you? You are forgetting that regardless of expenses, SKILL determines a lot too.
No, actually I'm not forgetting anything. If you were as conversant with business as you claim to be, than you would know that skill isn't really related to price. You can either do the job or not. Granted those that can do a better job often get paid more, but until you have established a base price you can't determine where you should be to start. With respect to the images you have (and for future reference, you will get a much better response by posting the images in the thread rather than by posting links. Many of our members are not terribly fond of clicking outside links), I agree with Tyler; they're not really where they need to be.I am based out of Southern California, And my question really isn't about the business aspect. I understand business very well, i understand sales margin, cost, expenses. But none of those are my question, my question is about the QUALITY of photography. Obviously expenses Come into play, but you wouldn't pay someone who has only been shooting for a couple weeks(who is really bad at photography) $3,000 to shoot a wedding, because their equipment costs $10,000, and their travel and food is $1,000, Would you? You are forgetting that regardless of expenses, SKILL determines a lot too.
You may also want to find a working professional in your area whom you can understudy and/or second-shoot for. This will give you insight into the technical aspects as well as professional photographic business practices.
No, actually I'm not forgetting anything. If you were as conversant with business as you claim to be, than you would know that skill isn't really related to price. You can either do the job or not. Granted those that can do a better job often get paid more, but until you have established a base price you can't determine where you should be to start. With respect to the images you have (and for future reference, you will get a much better response by posting the images in the thread rather than by posting links. Many of our members are not terribly fond of clicking outside links), I agree with Tyler; they're not really where they need to be.I am based out of Southern California, And my question really isn't about the business aspect. I understand business very well, i understand sales margin, cost, expenses. But none of those are my question, my question is about the QUALITY of photography. Obviously expenses Come into play, but you wouldn't pay someone who has only been shooting for a couple weeks(who is really bad at photography) $3,000 to shoot a wedding, because their equipment costs $10,000, and their travel and food is $1,000, Would you? You are forgetting that regardless of expenses, SKILL determines a lot too.
You may also want to find a working professional in your area whom you can understudy and/or second-shoot for. This will give you insight into the technical aspects as well as professional photographic business practices.
Okay then, so considering my expenses i'll be charging upwards of $3,000 for my next wedding. Not because i am good or anything but because i want to make a decent sales margin. And understudy/2nd shoot?, why bother? it does't matter if i'm good, This is a business, not an art form. Who cares of the bride is happy with what she paid, along as i can afford my next L lens who cares right? This isn't my day job, nor do i want it to be. But if i can use my camera gear which i have already bought for my own enjoyment and use it to make a little extra cash, whats the harm in that? Maybe my opinion on photography is warped, but i like to think that pleasing people is part of the job. I'd like to think people pay me for my skill, creativity, and style not a percentage of what it costs me to pull out my camera for a couple hours and risking my shutter life.
Oh and the photos are fixed.
I charged $750 for my very first wedding I ever shot back in 2006. IMO It says your serious, but learning.