what is everyone using for studio lighting?

Discussion in 'Lighting and Hardware' started by crackhouserooster, Jan 8, 2020.

  1. crackhouserooster

    crackhouserooster TPF Noob!

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2020
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    2
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    I am a 25+ year commercial studio photographer. Most of my lighting gear is 3kws and 2.4kws Elinchrom packs and heads. Some of them are quite old and getting costly to repair. What are the alternatives for replacement? Elinchrom appears to only make small monolights and some battery-powered packs that top out at 1kws. The Profoto 2.4kws packs are $15k and not really an option. thoughts? Thanks in advance. Craig


     
  2. zombiesniper

    zombiesniper Furtographer Extraordinaire! Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2015
    Messages:
    7,672
    Likes Received:
    5,487
    Location:
    Angus, Ontario
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    Do you only work in studio or do you need these to be used on location? Price point varies wildly based just on this requirement alone.
    Also look into Godox/Flashpoint or other lower price bracket gear. The quality has come up quite a bit in recent years. Not Eli quality but also not Eli prices either.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. crackhouserooster

    crackhouserooster TPF Noob!

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2020
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    2
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    Thanks for the reply. Mostly in the studio but some location work. Does Good/Flashpoint make 24oo ws gear?
     
  4. smoke665

    smoke665 TPF Supporters Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2016
    Messages:
    11,561
    Likes Received:
    5,561
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    Are you looking to replace with another pack and head model, or switch monolights?
     
  5. zombiesniper

    zombiesniper Furtographer Extraordinaire! Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2015
    Messages:
    7,672
    Likes Received:
    5,487
    Location:
    Angus, Ontario
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    2400 ws?!? Hol E crap that's butt tonne of power! You really should light your subject in the same county. lol
    I don't think they go that high.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. ronlane

    ronlane What's next? Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2012
    Messages:
    9,670
    Likes Received:
    4,250
    Location:
    Mustang Oklahoma
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    I agree with @zombiesniper, the AD400 Pro is a great quality and would be very suitable for most studio work. (Well having 2-3 of them anyway) If that isn't enough, they have a an AD600 and I just saw a posting where there is an AD1200 studio only light coming out.

    2.4K seems like WAY too much light. What power and camera settings would you use with that in studio?
     
  7. smoke665

    smoke665 TPF Supporters Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2016
    Messages:
    11,561
    Likes Received:
    5,561
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    @ronlane & @zombiesniper I may be wrong put I think he's referring to the power pack, which feeds multiple heads.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. tirediron

    tirediron Watch the Birdy! Staff Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Messages:
    45,567
    Likes Received:
    14,695
    Location:
    Victoria, BC
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    Speedotron, mostly Brownline. It's cheap like borscht on the used market, and lasts forever. Brownline tops out at 1600w/s per pack, but you can get a pack and M11 head for $250 - 300 off of fleabay, so if you need 3-4Kws, you're only looking at around $1K. Blackline packs go up to 2400w/s, and are probably 1.5 - 2x the price.
     
  9. JBPhotog

    JBPhotog No longer a newbie, moving up!

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2018
    Messages:
    532
    Likes Received:
    227
    Location:
    Canada
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    Pack and head systems typically have more watt/seconds because of the multiple head outlets available. FWIW, I have shot many iterations of multiple 2400 w/s pops from my Speedotron Black line packs just to build up to one exposure, a very common practise with LF cameras and slow film, it's kind of fun sitting in the dark smelling the ozone.

    However, many people have transitioned over to mono lights powered by batteries with optional AC configuration now that remote triggers can control the output of each head channel. When mono lights needed to be manually adjusted, they were a pain especially in boomed situations. Anyone starting over or looking to replace old gear would be advised to look at this seriously as it travels well and is perfectly functional in the studio. I have added Godox to my current lighting gear, so far they are functioning well and would continue to support the brand. BTW, they just announced a 1200 w/s pack and single head system for those who do need extra power.
     
  10. crackhouserooster

    crackhouserooster TPF Noob!

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2020
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    2
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    this is an example of what i shoot in the studio. 400ws aren't going to cut it.
    [​IMG]


    i have no problem with going to monolights but they seem to max out at 1kws. i have looked at the speedotron backline and they are a viable option.
     
  11. Derrel

    Derrel Mr. Rain Cloud

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    47,370
    Likes Received:
    18,393
    Location:
    USA
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    I have a lot of Speedotron, both Black
    Line and Brown Line. I have 2 x2400, 1×800, 1 ×400 in Black. And 1 ×1600, 1x 600, 2x400 and 1x200 in Brown. The 1602 I bought new in 1986 and the 405B I bought new in 2007. I have a lot of heads, most all bought used in the 2001-2008 era. Reliable and rugged, but old technology, not that fast on flash duration, but reasonable head weights.

    Following the basic collapse of the commercial print catalog industry the market was basically flooded with used Speedo gear, and even to this day there is quite a lot of it available on eBay. If you are coming from Elinchrom, Speedotron might be an okay alternative. If you need a lot of flash power come up black line is quite affordable for the pop you get.

    The factory is still located in Chicago, and the one repair I had done was quite inexpensive for me : I bought a non-working 400 Brown Line pack off of eBay and I sent it to Chicago with a note to bring it back to working capability they put in new capacitors and charged me $75. It was $20 for shipping each way.
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2020
  12. crackhouserooster

    crackhouserooster TPF Noob!

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2020
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    2
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit


    great, thanks. are there speedrings and adapters available for most modifiers? i would love to be able to continue to use my elinchrom and broncolor parabolics.
     

Share This Page