What is up

[bribrius]

with the nutjob that purposely crashed the plane? Been all over the tv?

who let him be a pilot? wtf?

says on tv he might have been "depressed". So he wrecks a plane killing everyone one? Really?

Girlfriend "he was a really nice guy, but seemed troubled"

No chit? Ya don't say?

 

[Designer]

The doctors should have been able to call his employer, but were probably restricted in that.

 

[Nettles]

He's an infamous mass murderer now.

 

[480sparky40 39]

Some people kill themselves by driving head-on into oncoming traffic and kill the people in the other vehicles.

Some people kill their families before swallowing a bullet.

Some people walk into their workplace or school and start shooting everyone.


People kill themselves every day. This guy just took 149 others out with him.

 

[bribrius]

Some people kill themselves by driving head-on into oncoming traffic and kill the people in the other vehicles.

Some people kill their families before swallowing a bullet.

Some people walk into their workplace or school and start shooting everyone.


People kill themselves every day. This guy just took 149 others out with him.

gee. Thanks for the cheer up. I feel so much better about this now. Plenty of buildings and bridges around. He could have kept the love to himself. Just sayn.

 

[Overread16 4]

The problem with psychological disorders is that the person suffering from them is not in a sound frame of mind. Their actions are abnormal and not predictable unless you're aware of the condition and have experience with others who have suffered similarly.

It's also something that one can often hide from others such as friends or co-workers. More prolonged social contact can often start to break down the hiding, but in general its very possible to hide such a condition from others. Depression is certainly one where a sufferer can hide the condition from others.

If he was on medication he might have stopped taking it; or he might not have been diagnosed with such a severe case as to start considering taking his own life and that of others. From my understanding whilst there is doctor patient confidentiality that only exists so far - desires to harm ones self or others often causes a break in that which would give a doctor powers to release that information to other key parties.

But it requires that it be known about first.


I've not looked into this beyond over hearing the odd media report, however it sounds like the guy might have had some kind of break-down - potentially quite a fast one as it arose without existing protection checks taking effect.

The other problem is that it was only made possible by the high security that they've imposed upon planes. Had the security door not been lockable from the inside of the cockpit or had the toilet for pilots been inside the cockpit as well then chances are things would have been very different.


Also, from memory, the conclusion was made after hearing audio recordings only thus there is potential that something else happened that we are unaware of which might have caused the incident; or that things did not play out as we currently expect. I must admit with all the security I'm surprised that audio is the only recording provided and that video isn't on-hand as well (black box recorded or today streamed to a storage site off-the plane via the internet.

 

[snowbear115 47]

who let him be a pilot?

I think it's hard to really comment on this unless you are familiar with German laws pertaining to the employment application process. Where I work, it has been brought up that polygraph testing should be done on fire department candidates like it is with the law enforcement jobs. It's a valid idea, but Maryland State law forbids employers from requiring polygraph unless it is a law enforcement agency.

 

[NancyMoranG]

As an average person with NO techno, electrician or other type of skills, it seems there should be an 'easy' solution? Why can't the Captain have a remote in his pocket to over ride the lock? Like our car lock? And we can call On-Star (?) to unlock my car remotely...
But, you are never going to be able to stop someone who really wants to do something like this.
What fate this was....if I had been on his plane a day earlier, I would be counting my lucky stars that he didn't do it that day?!

 

[bribrius]

who let him be a pilot?

I think it's hard to really comment on this unless you are familiar with German laws pertaining to the employment application process. Where I work, it has been brought up that polygraph testing should be done on fire department candidates like it is with the law enforcement jobs. It's a valid idea, but Maryland State law forbids employers from requiring polygraph unless it is a law enforcement agency.

Pilots on the Germanwings Murder Suicide The Atlantic

reading some of this. Seems they have had somewhat a breakdown in the quality control in picking out pilots. Apparently you can go from flipping hamburgers to being a pilot in a couple years.

 

[Designer]

Maryland State law forbids employers from requiring polygraph unless it is a law enforcement agency.

They could just make it voluntary. And then hire only the ones who volunteered to take it. Quite simple, but the PC police are weenies.

 

[Designer]

Why can't the Captain have a remote in his pocket to over ride the lock? Like our car lock? And we can call On-Star (?) to unlock my car remotely...

The average half-smart terrorist could then hijack the remote. Or call On-Star.

 

[Designer]

BTW: that secure door to the cockpit played a very important role in the success of this tragedy.

And where, exactly did that idea originate?

For my money, the various "fixes" that the idiots in charge attempt never actually solve any problems, they just make the problems different.

 

[runnah]

who let him be a pilot?

I think it's hard to really comment on this unless you are familiar with German laws pertaining to the employment application process. Where I work, it has been brought up that polygraph testing should be done on fire department candidates like it is with the law enforcement jobs. It's a valid idea, but Maryland State law forbids employers from requiring polygraph unless it is a law enforcement agency.

Polygraphs are a joke and have been proven ineffective so much so that they are no admissable in most courts.

 

[snowbear115 47]

Maryland State law forbids employers from requiring polygraph unless it is a law enforcement agency.

They could just make it voluntary. And then hire only the ones who volunteered to take it. Quite simple, but the PC police are weenies.

Still breaking the law. Personally I think all public safety employees (and a few other occupations) should be required to take a poly, but the law has to be changed first.

 

[Forkie]

As an average person with NO techno, electrician or other type of skills, it seems there should be an 'easy' solution? Why can't the Captain have a remote in his pocket to over ride the lock? Like our car lock? And we can call On-Star (?) to unlock my car remotely...
But, you are never going to be able to stop someone who really wants to do something like this.
What fate this was....if I had been on his plane a day earlier, I would be counting my lucky stars that he didn't do it that day?!

There's a bit of a dilemma with your solution to the locked door though. What if the Captain decides to do the same thing? Should the Co-Pilot have an override key too? What about the head steward/stewardess in case something causes both pilots to be incapacitated? What about having a key in a breakable glass case just outside the door? But then the cockpit is at risk from intruders.

We can't stamp out every single possible risk. The best defence we have against these kinds of things is that the chances of them happening to us are unbelievably slim.