What path to follow to self-learn photography

[pixmedic]

based on the portfolio the OP provided, processing would be one of the things I recommend them to spend more time learning/studying. The op's entire portfolio has inconsistent editing styles. Incorrect white balance, exposure, etc. I think the photos themselves are not bad so that was my opinion. I am really not understanding why you are questioning me. Have you seen the portfolio in question? What would your advice to the OP be?

Agreed.

As for specifics, I think Paige is pretty much right with her critique as is.
The problem with trying to get TOO specific is that with the OP not having a consistent pattern of editing, there is no defined "style" in which to point and say "do them all this way".

All you would be doing by getting super specific at this point is basically telling the OP how YOU edit photos, which may or may not help with developing their own editing workflow.

If the OP would like more specific help, posting a few pics in a new thread for critique would be the best way to get it.

 

[soufiej]

based on the portfolio the OP provided, processing would be one of the things I recommend them to spend more time learning/studying. The op's entire portfolio has inconsistent editing styles. Incorrect white balance, exposure, etc. I think the photos themselves are not bad so that was my opinion. I am really not understanding why you are questioning me. Have you seen the portfolio in question? What would your advice to the OP be?

Agreed.

As for specifics, I think Paige is pretty much right with her critique as is.
The problem with trying to get TOO specific is that with the OP not having a consistent pattern of editing, there is no defined "style" in which to point and say "do them all this way".

All you would be doing by getting super specific at this point is basically telling the OP how YOU edit photos, which may or may not help with developing their own editing workflow.

If the OP would like more specific help, posting a few pics in a new thread for critique would be the best way to get it.

Based on the op's responses, I would agree any specific changes made to any specific photo wouldn't be of use. Rather like telling a newbie driver, "When you come to the corner Turner and West Main, turn the steering wheel." The op doesn't seem to be asking for "specific" changes to any one shot but rather quite general impressions of their work. However, "learn/study" also seems to be a bit too far from what the op has asked.

There are several dozen shots to select from, possibly taking one or two wouldn't be asking too much for some generalized comments about the op's editing techniques, eh? Just saying "white balance" and so on and nothing more seems a bit vague to me.

Still, why begin with processing? Isn't there a lot of stuff that occurs before processing that processing can't change?

 

[pixmedic]

based on the portfolio the OP provided, processing would be one of the things I recommend them to spend more time learning/studying. The op's entire portfolio has inconsistent editing styles. Incorrect white balance, exposure, etc. I think the photos themselves are not bad so that was my opinion. I am really not understanding why you are questioning me. Have you seen the portfolio in question? What would your advice to the OP be?

Agreed.

As for specifics, I think Paige is pretty much right with her critique as is.
The problem with trying to get TOO specific is that with the OP not having a consistent pattern of editing, there is no defined "style" in which to point and say "do them all this way".

All you would be doing by getting super specific at this point is basically telling the OP how YOU edit photos, which may or may not help with developing their own editing workflow.

If the OP would like more specific help, posting a few pics in a new thread for critique would be the best way to get it.

Based on the op's responses, I would agree any specific changes made to any specific photo wouldn't be of use. Rather like telling a newbie driver, "When you come to the corner Turner and West Main, turn the steering wheel." The op doesn't seem to be asking for "specific" changes to any one shot but rather quite general impressions of their work. However, "learn/study" also seems to be a bit too far from what the op has asked.

There are several dozen shots to select from, possibly taking one or two wouldn't be asking too much for some generalized comments about the op's editing techniques, eh? Just saying "white balance" and so on and nothing more seems a bit vague to me.

Still, why begin with processing? Isn't there a lot of stuff that occurs before processing that processing can't change?

Well, instead of criticizing the other critiques, since you are obviously concerned with the OP's progress, perhaps your time would be better spent taking your own advice and going over the OP's portfolio and helping them improve their photography in a manner you feel is best.
Certainly telling us,again, that our suggestions aren't helping, is even less productive to the OP than our less than ideal advice.

Just a thought.

 

[photoguy99]

Talking about anything other than processing tends to turn pretty unproductive on TPF.

 

[soufiej]

based on the portfolio the OP provided, processing would be one of the things I recommend them to spend more time learning/studying. The op's entire portfolio has inconsistent editing styles. Incorrect white balance, exposure, etc. I think the photos themselves are not bad so that was my opinion. I am really not understanding why you are questioning me. Have you seen the portfolio in question? What would your advice to the OP be?

Agreed.

As for specifics, I think Paige is pretty much right with her critique as is.
The problem with trying to get TOO specific is that with the OP not having a consistent pattern of editing, there is no defined "style" in which to point and say "do them all this way".

All you would be doing by getting super specific at this point is basically telling the OP how YOU edit photos, which may or may not help with developing their own editing workflow.

If the OP would like more specific help, posting a few pics in a new thread for critique would be the best way to get it.

Based on the op's responses, I would agree any specific changes made to any specific photo wouldn't be of use. Rather like telling a newbie driver, "When you come to the corner Turner and West Main, turn the steering wheel." The op doesn't seem to be asking for "specific" changes to any one shot but rather quite general impressions of their work. However, "learn/study" also seems to be a bit too far from what the op has asked.

There are several dozen shots to select from, possibly taking one or two wouldn't be asking too much for some generalized comments about the op's editing techniques, eh? Just saying "white balance" and so on and nothing more seems a bit vague to me.

Still, why begin with processing? Isn't there a lot of stuff that occurs before processing that processing can't change?

Well, instead of criticizing the other critiques, since you are obviously concerned with the OP's progress, perhaps your time would be better spent taking your own advice and going over the OP's portfolio and helping them improve their photography in a manner you feel is best.
Certainly telling us,again, that our suggestions aren't helping, is even less productive to the OP than our less than ideal advice.

Just a thought.

Honest to crimeny, folks! Haven't any of you actually read the thread? Is that really too much to ask? That you actually know what the *&#@ you're talking about?


"learn/study" is not a frickin' "critique"! And bitchin' at me for asking for clarification ain't being "productive".



I seriously do not understand the level of animosity and snarkiness on this forum. I thought one of the first rules you all signed on to was, "play nice".

Didn't last long on this forum. And from "staff members" no less! This truly is BS!

 

[pixmedic]

based on the portfolio the OP provided, processing would be one of the things I recommend them to spend more time learning/studying. The op's entire portfolio has inconsistent editing styles. Incorrect white balance, exposure, etc. I think the photos themselves are not bad so that was my opinion. I am really not understanding why you are questioning me. Have you seen the portfolio in question? What would your advice to the OP be?

Agreed.

As for specifics, I think Paige is pretty much right with her critique as is.
The problem with trying to get TOO specific is that with the OP not having a consistent pattern of editing, there is no defined "style" in which to point and say "do them all this way".

All you would be doing by getting super specific at this point is basically telling the OP how YOU edit photos, which may or may not help with developing their own editing workflow.

If the OP would like more specific help, posting a few pics in a new thread for critique would be the best way to get it.

Based on the op's responses, I would agree any specific changes made to any specific photo wouldn't be of use. Rather like telling a newbie driver, "When you come to the corner Turner and West Main, turn the steering wheel." The op doesn't seem to be asking for "specific" changes to any one shot but rather quite general impressions of their work. However, "learn/study" also seems to be a bit too far from what the op has asked.

There are several dozen shots to select from, possibly taking one or two wouldn't be asking too much for some generalized comments about the op's editing techniques, eh? Just saying "white balance" and so on and nothing more seems a bit vague to me.

Still, why begin with processing? Isn't there a lot of stuff that occurs before processing that processing can't change?

Well, instead of criticizing the other critiques, since you are obviously concerned with the OP's progress, perhaps your time would be better spent taking your own advice and going over the OP's portfolio and helping them improve their photography in a manner you feel is best.
Certainly telling us,again, that our suggestions aren't helping, is even less productive to the OP than our less than ideal advice.

Just a thought.

Honest to crimeny, folks! Haven't any of you actually read the thread? Is that really too much to ask? That you actually know what the *&#@ you're talking about?


"learn/study" is not a frickin' "critique"! And bitchin' at me for asking for clarification ain't being "productive".



I seriously do not understand the level of animosity and snarkiness on this forum. I thought one of the first rules you all signed on to was, "play nice".

Didn't last long on this forum.

So again, are you helping the OP or just arguing here?

 

[soufiej]

based on the portfolio the OP provided, processing would be one of the things I recommend them to spend more time learning/studying. The op's entire portfolio has inconsistent editing styles. Incorrect white balance, exposure, etc. I think the photos themselves are not bad so that was my opinion. I am really not understanding why you are questioning me. Have you seen the portfolio in question? What would your advice to the OP be?

Agreed.

As for specifics, I think Paige is pretty much right with her critique as is.
The problem with trying to get TOO specific is that with the OP not having a consistent pattern of editing, there is no defined "style" in which to point and say "do them all this way".

All you would be doing by getting super specific at this point is basically telling the OP how YOU edit photos, which may or may not help with developing their own editing workflow.

If the OP would like more specific help, posting a few pics in a new thread for critique would be the best way to get it.

Based on the op's responses, I would agree any specific changes made to any specific photo wouldn't be of use. Rather like telling a newbie driver, "When you come to the corner Turner and West Main, turn the steering wheel." The op doesn't seem to be asking for "specific" changes to any one shot but rather quite general impressions of their work. However, "learn/study" also seems to be a bit too far from what the op has asked.

There are several dozen shots to select from, possibly taking one or two wouldn't be asking too much for some generalized comments about the op's editing techniques, eh? Just saying "white balance" and so on and nothing more seems a bit vague to me.

Still, why begin with processing? Isn't there a lot of stuff that occurs before processing that processing can't change?

Well, instead of criticizing the other critiques, since you are obviously concerned with the OP's progress, perhaps your time would be better spent taking your own advice and going over the OP's portfolio and helping them improve their photography in a manner you feel is best.
Certainly telling us,again, that our suggestions aren't helping, is even less productive to the OP than our less than ideal advice.

Just a thought.

Honest to crimeny, folks! Haven't any of you actually read the thread? Is that really too much to ask? That you actually know what the *&#@ you're talking about?


"learn/study" is not a frickin' "critique"! And bitchin' at me for asking for clarification ain't being "productive".



I seriously do not understand the level of animosity and snarkiness on this forum. I thought one of the first rules you all signed on to was, "play nice".

Didn't last long on this forum.

So again, are you helping the OP or just arguing here?

Me? I'm complainin' about the service I find in this joint.

 

[paigew]

Honest to crimeny, folks! Haven't any of you actually read the thread? Is that really too much to ask? That you actually know what the *&#@ you're talking about?


"learn/study" is not a frickin' "critique"! And bitchin' at me for asking for clarification ain't being "productive".

The OP didn't ask for critique, he asked "what path to follow to self learn photography". I would never waste my valuable time reading the paragraphs of responses you wrote. I simply read the op's post, looked at his portfolio and gave him the biggest area he needs improvement on. This is a common way to help guide others wanting direction on their photography journey. Some need help on light, composition, editing, basics...

the op specifically asked what subjects he should study. Why are you bent out of shape?

 

[pixmedic]

based on the portfolio the OP provided, processing would be one of the things I recommend them to spend more time learning/studying. The op's entire portfolio has inconsistent editing styles. Incorrect white balance, exposure, etc. I think the photos themselves are not bad so that was my opinion. I am really not understanding why you are questioning me. Have you seen the portfolio in question? What would your advice to the OP be?

Agreed.

As for specifics, I think Paige is pretty much right with her critique as is.
The problem with trying to get TOO specific is that with the OP not having a consistent pattern of editing, there is no defined "style" in which to point and say "do them all this way".

All you would be doing by getting super specific at this point is basically telling the OP how YOU edit photos, which may or may not help with developing their own editing workflow.

If the OP would like more specific help, posting a few pics in a new thread for critique would be the best way to get it.

Based on the op's responses, I would agree any specific changes made to any specific photo wouldn't be of use. Rather like telling a newbie driver, "When you come to the corner Turner and West Main, turn the steering wheel." The op doesn't seem to be asking for "specific" changes to any one shot but rather quite general impressions of their work. However, "learn/study" also seems to be a bit too far from what the op has asked.

There are several dozen shots to select from, possibly taking one or two wouldn't be asking too much for some generalized comments about the op's editing techniques, eh? Just saying "white balance" and so on and nothing more seems a bit vague to me.

Still, why begin with processing? Isn't there a lot of stuff that occurs before processing that processing can't change?

Well, instead of criticizing the other critiques, since you are obviously concerned with the OP's progress, perhaps your time would be better spent taking your own advice and going over the OP's portfolio and helping them improve their photography in a manner you feel is best.
Certainly telling us,again, that our suggestions aren't helping, is even less productive to the OP than our less than ideal advice.

Just a thought.

Honest to crimeny, folks! Haven't any of you actually read the thread? Is that really too much to ask? That you actually know what the *&#@ you're talking about?


"learn/study" is not a frickin' "critique"! And bitchin' at me for asking for clarification ain't being "productive".



I seriously do not understand the level of animosity and snarkiness on this forum. I thought one of the first rules you all signed on to was, "play nice".

Didn't last long on this forum.

So again, are you helping the OP or just arguing here?

Me? I'm complainin' about the service I find in this joint.

yea, I have noticed that trend with some people.
But on the bright side, I still love you.
Technically, as a mod, I kinda have to....like Jesus. But still.

 

[soufiej]

Agreed.

As for specifics, I think Paige is pretty much right with her critique as is.
The problem with trying to get TOO specific is that with the OP not having a consistent pattern of editing, there is no defined "style" in which to point and say "do them all this way".

All you would be doing by getting super specific at this point is basically telling the OP how YOU edit photos, which may or may not help with developing their own editing workflow.

If the OP would like more specific help, posting a few pics in a new thread for critique would be the best way to get it.

Based on the op's responses, I would agree any specific changes made to any specific photo wouldn't be of use. Rather like telling a newbie driver, "When you come to the corner Turner and West Main, turn the steering wheel." The op doesn't seem to be asking for "specific" changes to any one shot but rather quite general impressions of their work. However, "learn/study" also seems to be a bit too far from what the op has asked.

There are several dozen shots to select from, possibly taking one or two wouldn't be asking too much for some generalized comments about the op's editing techniques, eh? Just saying "white balance" and so on and nothing more seems a bit vague to me.

Still, why begin with processing? Isn't there a lot of stuff that occurs before processing that processing can't change?

Well, instead of criticizing the other critiques, since you are obviously concerned with the OP's progress, perhaps your time would be better spent taking your own advice and going over the OP's portfolio and helping them improve their photography in a manner you feel is best.
Certainly telling us,again, that our suggestions aren't helping, is even less productive to the OP than our less than ideal advice.

Just a thought.

Honest to crimeny, folks! Haven't any of you actually read the thread? Is that really too much to ask? That you actually know what the *&#@ you're talking about?


"learn/study" is not a frickin' "critique"! And bitchin' at me for asking for clarification ain't being "productive".



I seriously do not understand the level of animosity and snarkiness on this forum. I thought one of the first rules you all signed on to was, "play nice".

Didn't last long on this forum.

So again, are you helping the OP or just arguing here?

Me? I'm complainin' about the service I find in this joint.

yea, I have noticed that trend with some people.
But on the bright side, I still love you.
Technically, as a mod, I kinda have to....like Jesus. But still.

And, as a mod, I'm still surprised you feel you should add to the BS. Technically, I'm not that impressed and I don't believe in Jesus.

To quote and earlier post, "Enough" already. OK? Go bother someone else.

 

[Buckster]

LOL! And you mods though I was irritating!

 

[pixmedic]

Based on the op's responses, I would agree any specific changes made to any specific photo wouldn't be of use. Rather like telling a newbie driver, "When you come to the corner Turner and West Main, turn the steering wheel." The op doesn't seem to be asking for "specific" changes to any one shot but rather quite general impressions of their work. However, "learn/study" also seems to be a bit too far from what the op has asked.

There are several dozen shots to select from, possibly taking one or two wouldn't be asking too much for some generalized comments about the op's editing techniques, eh? Just saying "white balance" and so on and nothing more seems a bit vague to me.

Still, why begin with processing? Isn't there a lot of stuff that occurs before processing that processing can't change?

Well, instead of criticizing the other critiques, since you are obviously concerned with the OP's progress, perhaps your time would be better spent taking your own advice and going over the OP's portfolio and helping them improve their photography in a manner you feel is best.
Certainly telling us,again, that our suggestions aren't helping, is even less productive to the OP than our less than ideal advice.

Just a thought.

Honest to crimeny, folks! Haven't any of you actually read the thread? Is that really too much to ask? That you actually know what the *&#@ you're talking about?


"learn/study" is not a frickin' "critique"! And bitchin' at me for asking for clarification ain't being "productive".



I seriously do not understand the level of animosity and snarkiness on this forum. I thought one of the first rules you all signed on to was, "play nice".

Didn't last long on this forum.

So again, are you helping the OP or just arguing here?

Me? I'm complainin' about the service I find in this joint.

yea, I have noticed that trend with some people.
But on the bright side, I still love you.
Technically, as a mod, I kinda have to....like Jesus. But still.

And, as a mod, I'm still surprised you feel you should add to the BS. Technically, I'm not that impressed and I don't believe in Jesus.

To quote and earlier post, "Enough" already. OK? Go bother someone else.

As a mod, I feel that I have a responsibility to address any and all issues, so as long as you keep bringing them up, I'll keep addressing them.
I'm not entirely certain when you say "add to the BS" if you mean in addition to yours or....
also, even if your not impressed, I still love you.

 

[photoguy99]

Mmm. Popcorn.

 

[Overread]

And lets pause a second.

Everyone drop the sub-debate/argument/popcorn party. It's going nowhere.

Accept that different people view things in a different way and that neither of you is correct nor wrong. You are free to air your different approaches to advice; you are even free to air disagreement (hopefully with reasoning) to other viewpoints. But lets avoid getting into a mud slinging match. Let the OP make the final call on who they wish to listen to (heck they might listen to both).

 

[Didereaux]

It's really rather simple: Read, talk to other photography people (like here)...then GO OUT and practice that ONE thing til you understand it. Repeat for each new thing.