Why ask for CC?

[Alex_B]

I think you're showing off how smart you are. :razz:

Seriously!

Errm, no I am just trying to serve as a shining example in here

 

[kundalini]

WOW. This thread caught on like a wildfire.

Errm, no I am just trying to serve as a shining example in here

When I grow up, I want to be just like you Alex.

(checking to see if I'm on your ever growing list)

 

[Alex_B]

When I grow up, I want to be just like you Alex.

(checking to see if I'm on your ever growing list)

to be on that list, you have to try much much harder ...

And BTW, I do not believe you ever want to be like me ... liar!

 

[jols]

i have checked my pm box and will only be posting nice thoughts from now and keep my real thoughts to myself.

 

[Arch]

i have checked my pm box and will only be posting nice thoughts from now and keep my real thoughts to myself.

well done

 

[jols]

i might have a relapse every now and again though:greenpbl:

 

[DSLR noob]

for the record, you guys can be as brutal or as harsh as you want with any of my photos in the future.

 

[jols]

now thats where your wrong cause if im too bad i get told off

 

[Jeff Canes]

i post last week and not ones person reply, and photo really was not that good

 

[RyanLilly]

Because these problems are widespread and chronic.

Chronic, you say? That could make us critique photos better!

 

[Alex_B]

for the record, you guys can be as brutal or as harsh as you want with any of my photos in the future.

same here ... also for the past, not just the future

 

[sabbath999]

I am not aiming my comments at any person in particular who has posted in the thread. If anybody sees any resemblance to anybody here on TPF or on any of the other internet photo sites, well that is your interpretation, not mine.

Sure, folks can be as brutal or harsh as they want with mine, edit them, call me both a fascist and a communist at the same time, I don't care.

While I don't generally request C&C (as in I have NEVER requested it), if somebody wants to make it, that's fine... there is just absolutely zero chance that I will even listen to anybody who's work I haven't seen a bunch of and who isn't demonstrably better than I am.

People like SwitchFX (or however he spells his name, I know that is wrong), Alex B, Chiller, Jeff Canes (just to name a few), those folks I will pay attention to because I have seen at least a small percentage of their body of work and it is excellent... people who just post critiques without showing their own stuff? Not a chance.

Just because somebody can sound smart on the internet doesn't mean they can take good pictures, and if a person can't demonstrate that he or she takes good pictures, why on earth would anybody listen to them.

Me, I make absolutely no claim whatever that I take good pictures. Many if not most of mine are weak-to-bad. That's why I don't ever offer C&C myself... until I get my act together and get a LOT better at both the art and craft of photography, who am I to say anything about what others are doing... about the only thing I ever do is offer a bit of encouragement for folks who are trying.

I am glad to help folks understand technical questions within the limits of my ability (exposure, focus, how a particular camera feature works, etc.) and can offer my own experiences on the quality of equipment that I have owned or used.

Folks have to understand, this is the internet, and part of understanding that is that there are both artists and wannabes galore... people who have zero technical skills that still produce amazing pictures, and people who can quote every lens ratio of every Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Minolta, Sigma, Tamron and Tokina lenses... and couldn't take an interesting picture to save their lives. Many of these folks would rather shoot test charts than something actually interesting...

So I say when looking at internet C&C, consider the source of who is giving it. Is this person an artist or craftsman who's work you see in front of you every day, or is it some snarky person with a huge vocabulary and a large amount of book learning (or at least who knows how to Google well) who you have never seen pictures from?

If a person who posts C&C has "it" then he or she needs to show that on a regular basis to be taken seriously... at least by me.

For those of you who DO post your amazing stuff on a regular basis, I humbly say "I am not worthy" because I learn so much by your IMAGES and your words.

 

[monkeykoder]

I can see taking advice from people who aren't as good as you sometimes. Sometimes people just see things a little bit different and that helps you see it yourself.

 

[Alpha]

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You forget the element of style. By that logic I shouldn't bother giving any critique since so few here do editorial style work. It's just like wine. You start getting into big, expensive reds and then you develop a need to be blown away by everything you drink. It's a frustrating environment in which chronic oversaturation, oversharpening, HDR (to make up for your digi's poor dynamic range, of course) are pervasive, and most of the people on the board are impossible to please otherwise. If people don't like my work then they don't like my work. But I won't belittle it by kowtowing to this bull**** commercial populism. I'm not going to waste my time shooting certain subjects and processing in certain ways just so that I can post a photo for you to see that I can put my money where my mouth is. I'm knowledgeable regardless. If you want to "see" my work, hop on a plane to Raleigh and I'll show you some toned FB gelatin and some Ciba. Even as arrogant (so you all think) as I am, I still listen to what people say. Whether I agree or not is another story. You could take absolutely miserable photos and still make a poignant remark regarding my work. To reject someone on face is a different story, and you stand only to lose by doing it.

 

[The_Traveler]