Wondering: D7000 vs D800 vs D700

[mjhoward]

...do I bite the bullet, sell the D7000 and buy the pro camera? Or do I hang on to the mid-grade one for a bit while I keep up with my learning and practicing?

Thoughts welcome!

Actually -

If you'd re-read my original post, I believe I stated as well, that "I DO plan on buying a pro level camera asap" right in it and therefore, by your logic - anyone that responded wasted their time right from the get-go. Which, to be quite honest, is not my fault. Next time, perhaps some should read original postings more clearly, and then would realize they are not trying to make a decision FOR me, because (obviously) - I had already made the decision. It was just a matter of when it would be carried out.

are you perhaps bi-polar?

 

[graecyn]

However I am wondering one particular thing. I DO plan on buying a pro camera ASAP, to the point where I'm considering selling the D7000 and using that money + my tax refund to purchase the D800 in March when it is released.

No. But you can feel free to continue to try and insult me all you like.

 

[graecyn]

I think the whining going on here with some of you is preposterous. So, I intend to purchase a D800 at some point. I'm fairly certain I said that in my original post.
What I asked for were thoughts. You don't think I should buy the D800 right away? Great! Tell me WHY. Don't assume that I "don't know how to take the camera off auto mode". I assure you, that is not the case.
Yes - I already knew lenses are important, but I did not value them higher than the D800. That was obviously an incorrect decision and has been corrected by Dao and djacobox372 with their factual statements on lens depreciation versus body depreciation. THAT is an acceptable reason on WHY it should not be done. Opinions are great and all, but I could sit here and listen to all of you tell me why you personally FEEL I shouldn't do something all day long. Giving me factual reason as to WHY though - that is the advice I am more likely to take.
I am sorry that some of you feel I acted out of line. However - I will not apologize for feeling personally offended at the assumptions that I know nothing about what I'm doing, am an idiot, "have no idea how to take the camera off auto mode", am belligerent and so on. If that's the way you'd like to feel - so be it. It really doesn't matter. But in the end, I'll spend the money I want to spend on what I want to spend it on, and the only two that gave me an acceptable, undeniable, factual reason for buying gear over a body are the two men mentioned above. The others that contributed, thank you (assuming you are not one of the few that have felt the need to insult me).

GOOD ONE.. now you have gone from being the aggressor to being a Victim? Nice try! Dosen't work..

I'm fairly certain there's only one person, in this entire mishmash of people insisting I'm wrong for daring to want a D800, that I was "aggressive" to. And that was purely because I felt he was insulting me.

 

[graecyn]

Just be sure you invest in FX lenses so when you do make the switch you won't have to replace any of them.

I will do! Thank you.

 

[mjhoward]

Yes - I already knew lenses are important, but I did not value them higher than the D800. That was obviously an incorrect decision and has been corrected by Dao and djacobox372 with their factual statements on lens depreciation versus body depreciation. THAT is an acceptable reason on WHY it should not be done. Opinions are great and all, but I could sit here and listen to all of you tell me why you personally FEEL I shouldn't do something all day long. Giving me factual reason as to WHY though - that is the advice I am more likely to take.
I am sorry that some of you feel I acted out of line. However - I will not apologize for feeling personally offended at the assumptions that I know nothing about what I'm doing, am an idiot, "have no idea how to take the camera off auto mode", am belligerent and so on. If that's the way you'd like to feel - so be it. It really doesn't matter. But in the end, I'll spend the money I want to spend on what I want to spend it on, and the only two that gave me an acceptable, undeniable, factual reason for buying gear over a body are the two men mentioned above. The others that contributed, thank you (assuming you are not one of the few that have felt the need to insult me).

You're right. That is sound advice... if you're a hobbyist trying to minimize losses, but not if you're a professional photographer (or plan to be, as you've said) that needs the proper tools to produce a quality product. Just sayin'

 

[Bossy]

Can you agree buying a D800 to use with either the kit lens or no lens is idiotic?

Furthermore, if you have the extra funds to get good glass along with the prosumer camera, whats the point of this thread?

 

[graecyn]

Can you agree buying a D800 to use with either the kit lens or no lens is idiotic?

Furthermore, if you have the extra funds to get good glass along with the prosumer camera, whats the point of this thread?

The point of the thread was to determine whether or not I should invest in ALL glass (i.e. 3-5 good lenses) for the D7000, or to trade in the D7000 for the D800 and invest in only 1 or 2 good lenses.

After the above was pointed out to me (glass vs body depreciation), it's clearly a no brainer that glass is the way to go. That is what I wanted to know. And yes - I believe I said somewhere a few pages back that I had no intentions of using a kit lens on a D800. If it weren't the only lens I had at the moment, I'd have tossed it in the junk pile already.

 

[graecyn]

Yes - I already knew lenses are important, but I did not value them higher than the D800. That was obviously an incorrect decision and has been corrected by Dao and djacobox372 with their factual statements on lens depreciation versus body depreciation. THAT is an acceptable reason on WHY it should not be done. Opinions are great and all, but I could sit here and listen to all of you tell me why you personally FEEL I shouldn't do something all day long. Giving me factual reason as to WHY though - that is the advice I am more likely to take.
I am sorry that some of you feel I acted out of line. However - I will not apologize for feeling personally offended at the assumptions that I know nothing about what I'm doing, am an idiot, "have no idea how to take the camera off auto mode", am belligerent and so on. If that's the way you'd like to feel - so be it. It really doesn't matter. But in the end, I'll spend the money I want to spend on what I want to spend it on, and the only two that gave me an acceptable, undeniable, factual reason for buying gear over a body are the two men mentioned above. The others that contributed, thank you (assuming you are not one of the few that have felt the need to insult me).

You're right. That is sound advice... if you're a hobbyist trying to minimize losses, but not if you're a professional photographer (or plan to be, as you've said) that needs the proper tools to produce a quality product. Just sayin'

Don't worry. I am sure I'll still have my eye on a D800 at some point in the future after investing in a few lenses.

 

[xyphoto]

I'd suggest you get D800 or D4 and all the pro lenses. You only live once even it is in your dream.

 

[mjhoward]

The point of the thread was to determine whether or not I should invest in ALL glass (i.e. 3-5 good lenses) for the D7000, or to trade in the D7000 for the D800 and invest in only 1 or 2 good lenses.

Really??? You JUST argued with me that everyone should have known from the original post that you had ALREADY made up your mind when you made the original post that you were going to buy the D800... NOW you're saying the original point of the thread was exactly what you argued against me on! See YOUR response to me Below.

Actually -

If you'd re-read my original post, I believe I stated as well, that "I DO plan on buying a pro level camera asap" right in it and therefore, by your logic - anyone that responded wasted their time right from the get-go. Which, to be quite honest, is not my fault. Next time, perhaps some should read original postings more clearly, and then would realize they are not trying to make a decision FOR me, because (obviously) - I had already made the decision. It was just a matter of when it would be carried out.

 

[graecyn]

I'd suggest you get D800 or D4 and all the pro lenses. You only live once even it is in your dream.

I'm starting to wonder if being a smart-ass is a NECESSITY for this particular photography forum, or if it just comes naturally to most of you that have decided to respond to this thread unnecessarily. lol

 

[graecyn]

The point of the thread was to determine whether or not I should invest in ALL glass (i.e. 3-5 good lenses) for the D7000, or to trade in the D7000 for the D800 and invest in only 1 or 2 good lenses.

Really??? You JUST argued with me that everyone should have known from the original post that you had ALREADY made up your mind when you made the original post that you were going to buy the D800... NOW you're saying the original point of the thread was exactly what you argued against me on! See YOUR response to me Below.

Actually -

If you'd re-read my original post, I believe I stated as well, that "I DO plan on buying a pro level camera asap" right in it and therefore, by your logic - anyone that responded wasted their time right from the get-go. Which, to be quite honest, is not my fault. Next time, perhaps some should read original postings more clearly, and then would realize they are not trying to make a decision FOR me, because (obviously) - I had already made the decision. It was just a matter of when it would be carried out.

I didn't argue anything. It's still true, and God I've said this at least 5 times now. I WILL BUY a D800 at some point. The only question was WHEN. How are you missing that point?
The WHEN part being - BEFORE or AFTER investing in the glass.

 

[graecyn]

Just to further clarify, because OBVIOUSLY some folks are just missing the point here -
The BEFORE or AFTER is what I wanted to decide on. Whether or not I'll be buying a D800 - yes. That is already decided. I WILL BUY ONE, at some point in the future.
But whether or not to buy one RIGHT AWAY was determined by the body/lens depreciation point made in this thread. THAT is what persuaded me to go with glass over body for now.

 

[graecyn]

And anyway! At this point - I have to go to bed. It is far too late for anymore of this nonsense.
Thank you to the ones that helped me change my mind of buying the D800 right away and investing in glass instead with your sound and reasonable advice (because damn do I want that camera - but I can wait). You two are exactly who I needed to hear. Diamonds in the rough, I tell you. To the rest of you that will undoubtedly continue to insist that I'm wrong somehow and insult me - have fun!
Goodnight everyone.

 

[o hey tyler]

Whichever way you try to spin your initial post, it is still extremely apparent that this thread was useless and you disregarded information from people that know what they're talking about.

This isn't the O'Reilly factor. This is actually a "no-spin" zone.