worst fauxtographer ever?

[unpopular]

I've seen numerous new threads with photos. But a couple, at least, were started by new members who have demonstrated hostility, rudeness, and generally immature behaviour recently, and I had to wonder if the low number of replies reflected a reluctance to further engage the OP.

I swear, it wasn't me!

 

[LaFoto]

Please...for the love of cool whip do not lock this thread. It'll run it's course.

Let's hope for the best - and I'm having my eye on it.

 

[paigew]

nice charlie, I think we all know what MWAC stands for/means. My point is that it is a rude, disrespectful, and sexist comment. Do you want me to google the definition of those words for you?

 

[The_Traveler]

I think it's wrong to post a link like that when the person at that link is not a member so they can participate in the discussion.

There can be no doubt, there are a lot of potential buyers in that market segment. In any market segment, it's buyer beware.

Agreed. If this person posted her images here then it is 'fair game' so to speak. But to seek out her images/website for the sole purpose of making fun of her is mean spirited, ugly, and hurtful.

I really do not understand why members of this forum get so much pleasure by demeaning or bullying others. As artists we should be here to critique, encourage, and inspire each other. Instead this forum can only provide hurtful non helpful opinions.

I don't have any problems commenting on anyone offering services to the public when they put themselves in the public arena and I see my first responsibility to be honest.
When I see someone who ignores the incredible available bounty of information and then offers a public service for a fee, effectively cheating their clients from getting what they are paying for, my concerns for them personally are diminished.

 

[cgipson1]

I think it's wrong to post a link like that when the person at that link is not a member so they can participate in the discussion.

There can be no doubt, there are a lot of potential buyers in that market segment. In any market segment, it's buyer beware.

Agreed. If this person posted her images here then it is 'fair game' so to speak. But to seek out her images/website for the sole purpose of making fun of her is mean spirited, ugly, and hurtful.

I really do not understand why members of this forum get so much pleasure by demeaning or bullying others. As artists we should be here to critique, encourage, and inspire each other. Instead this forum can only provide hurtful non helpful opinions.

I don't have any problems commenting on anyone offering services to the public when they put themselves in the public arena and I see my first responsibility to be honest.
When I see someone who ignores the incredible available bounty of information and then offers a public service for a fee, effectively cheating their clients from getting what they are paying for, my concerns for them personally are diminished.

^^^THIS!

 

[Jaemie]

I have three adult daughters. I have a camera. *realizes the significance* :shock:

But seriously, I've always felt the term MWAC is rather gauche.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Corina, I worked at a jewelery store that advertised, and sold 1ct diamonds for $999. They were absolute sh!t.
People with low incomes bought them because the size of the diamond was a status symbol. They were often milky white, semi opaque, with fractures, inclusions, big black carbon spots, etc.

People with a little more money, would scoff at the quality, and opt for a smaller diamond, of much better color and clarity, for a little more money. Quality was more important than the size.

Then you have the people who would pay $20K for a colorless, flawless, ideal cut 1ct. These people cared about quality, and the status symbol.

Then we have people who will not think twice about dropping $150k on a 5ct diamond.

So certainly we can sit back and judge people on their decisions. But why judge the poorer person, who opted for the the best they could afford, and oftened paid on lay-away. Are the wealthy people better people because they have refined tastes, and more money? Was that store doing a disservice to the industry by catering to all customers, not just the wealthy, and informed?

This photographer wasn't hurting anyone. But we as an educated group hurt her, because we judged her.

Lew proudly claimed "we won". What did we win?

 

[Jaemie]

I've seen numerous new threads with photos. But a couple, at least, were started by new members who have demonstrated hostility, rudeness, and generally immature behaviour recently, and I had to wonder if the low number of replies reflected a reluctance to further engage the OP.

I swear, it wasn't me!

Not you. You're a sweet donkey.

 

[cgipson1]

nice charlie, I think we all know what MWAC stands for/means. My point is that it is a rude, disrespectful, and sexist comment. Do you want me to google the definition of those words for you?

As I said.. I did not invent the term! And it is common usage, even among non-photographers..... so I guess the whole world is rude, disrespectful and sexist? Or maybe there is a grain of truth behind it that bothers some people!

I don't know! Maybe none of us should use popular common terms...

 

[paigew]

...effectively cheating their clients from getting what they are paying for, my concerns for them personally are diminished.

and how would you say their clients are being cheated? They are clearly aware of the price and skill level of the photographer they CHOSE to employ no?

 

[paigew]

nice charlie, I think we all know what MWAC stands for/means. My point is that it is a rude, disrespectful, and sexist comment. Do you want me to google the definition of those words for you?

As I said.. I did not invent the term! And it is common usage, even among non-photographers..... so I guess the whole world is rude, disrespectful and sexist? Or maybe there is a grain of truth behind it that bothers some people!

You know charlie, It doesn't bother me when the term is used occasionally. But YOU, you use it every chance you can get. If a photographer is a woman, and her photos less than stellar you label them a MWAC. You throw that term around with intent of being hurtful and rude. At least that is the way you come across via internet forum.

 

[cgipson1]

...effectively cheating their clients from getting what they are paying for, my concerns for them personally are diminished.

and how would you say their clients are being cheated? They are clearly aware of the price and skill level of the photographer they CHOSE to employ no?

Claiming the term PROFESSIONAL has obligations, even for clients to dumb to know better! It is an ethics things... you dig? Or maybe you don't?

 

[paigew]

Claiming the term PROFESSIONAL has obligations, even for clients to dumb to know better! It is an ethics things... you dig? Or maybe you don't?

well I know you are older than I am. So I would think by now you are aware that there are different skill levels for ANY service/profession. Photography, home building (track homes vs custom homes anyone?), pet training, hair cutting, culinary arts, jewelers, make up artists. Yeah, the list is way too long to continue.

 

[IByte]

Corina, I worked at a jewelery store that advertised, and sold 1ct diamonds for $999. They were absolute sh!t.
People with low incomes bought them because the size of the diamond was a status symbol. They were often milky white, semi opaque, with fractures, inclusions, big black carbon spots, etc.

People with a little more money, would scoff at the quality, and opt for a smaller diamond, of much better color and clarity, for a little more money. Quality was more important than the size.

Then you have the people who would pay $20K for a colorless, flawless, ideal cut 1ct. These people cared about quality, and the status symbol.

Then we have people who will not think twice about dropping $150k on a 5ct diamond.

So certainly we can sit back and judge people on their decisions. But why judge the poorer person, who opted for the the best they could afford, and oftened paid on lay-away. Are the wealthy people better people because they have refined tastes, and more money? Was that store doing a disservice to the industry by catering to all customers, not just the wealthy, and informed?

This photographer wasn't hurting anyone. But we as an educated group hurt her, because we judged her.

Lew proudly claimed "we won". What did we win?

So what you are saying, we grew up in a world thinking BIGGER is better, rather than looking at the smaller, better quality product? Point well taken.

 

[Trever1t]

When I want to feel better about myself I just spend 15 minutes (not a minute longer) walking around WALMART. I don't need to say anything to anybody