Moving flash off camera, what do I NEED?

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  1. RMThompson

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    Hey all, I'd like to find the best (read: most inexpensive) way to move my SB800 off camera.

    I know I need some sort of stand for the flash, with the hole for an umbrella, but I dont know know even HOW to start shopping for this part.

    Also i need some way to trigger the flash from the D50 (and I cant rely on the D50's own flash)... I know their are wired and wireless options, but again, no IDEA what to buy.

    Anyone help?
     
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    Pocket Wizards work very well. You connect one to your camera and one to each flash. They are about $200 each and you might need connectors/adapters depending on which flash/camera combo you're using (I don't know what you'll need for the D50).

    I've heard good things about the a couple other brands but haven't used myself. Radio Popper Elinchrom Skyport

    You can find Cactus/GI transmitters and receivers on ebay for very reasonable prices but these suffer from some reliability issues.

    Nikon has a Commander for off camera lighting (I've used Canon's ST-E2) and while I can't speak for the Nikon unit if it's anything like Canon's forget it, there are problems with line of sight and interference from things as simple as bright light.
     
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    You could use a cable...all you need is a hot shoe to PC adaptor for the camera, and maybe a PC to hot shoe adaptor for the flash (if the flash doesn't have a PC connection already).

    As mentioned, there are a few ways to go wireless. Pocket Wizards are probably the best but very expensive. The Skyports are pretty good for less money and the G.I. / Cactus triggers are dirt cheap but are not as reliable.

    As for the stand, a standard light stand with 5/8" stud will be fine, and the piece you want for the top is something like THIS.
     
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    For my SB-600, I use a Nikon SC-28 flash sync cable. It's about £50, and IMO it is more reliable than virtually any wireless system. I mean, there is almost nothing at all that can go wrong, it's a direct extension of your flash. TTL, i-TTL, zoom levels, everything is kept. Of course, you won't get the freedom of a wireless kit, but you can do a surprising amount with it.

    If you can, I'd recommend getting a couple of slave flashes, and using the SB-800 to trigger them. You'll be able to use both flashes to their best then. Good luck! It's a big world out there :D.
     
  6. RMThompson

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    OK so far my BH shopping cart has this:

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/90051-REG/Morris_32012_Light_Stand_8_5_.html

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/37086-REG/Nikon_3066_AS_15_Sync_Terminal_Adapter.html

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/300477-REG/Nikon_4765_SC_28_TTL_Off_Camera_Shoe.html

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/42160-REG/Photoflex_AC_BSWCP_Multiclamp_with_Shoe_Mount.html

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/169870-REG/Bowens_BW_4036_Umbrella_Silver_and.html


    Is that everything? Any ideas on anything I can do CHEAPER? (Maybe a cheaper stand?)

    If I've got it all above right, this is how I understand it:

    Take this part and attach it to the D50:

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    Then use this cable to go from the D50 to the SB800:

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    Then, the SB800 sits on top of this adapter:

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    Which sits on this light stand:

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    And then I attach this umbrella:

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    Is that all correct?
     
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    kundalini Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    One additional note. I placed a strip of electrical tape to the botton of the clamp the holds the SB800 to avoid possible contact with the flashes contacts. Read it on Strobist I think.
     
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    Radio triggers will give you more freedom. You can buy the Gadget Infinity Catus V2S radio triggers for about $30 for a transmitter and receiver. As pointed out above, they may not be the most reliable thing out there, but they're a very good option for starting out and learning what you're doing. Then you can always upgrade if you need to.
     
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    I have this fabulous s-shaped bracket that mounts to the top of a tripod or light stand and will hold either a gun-flash or shoe-mount flash, and will also hold a speed-ring for modifiers. It tilts and swivels, too. It was something like $25. It's amazing. I'll see if I can figure out who makes it.
     
  12. RMThompson

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    Where can I find these? Also, what do you mean by "reliable"? Will they pop on most shots? That's the key.
     

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