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I've had interesting discussions even just with one single photo shot a little wide and opening up the floor to people to crop to different angles. Sometimes the crop is very "easy" to see once you've even a little experience (good old rule of thirds); but other times composing can be quite tricky.
I certainly found this with equine photography as compared to wildlife. In wildlife one might often have a single subject or a group or a single focus point of action - thus once you've a little experience the photos almost compose themselves; you just have to get it right in camera or shoot wide and crop a little in editing.
In equine suddenly I found there were TWO often differently focused subjects in every shot (rider + mount) plus there was a much busier background; then there were other elements (eg a jump) in the plane as the subjects. Foreground might also have a few things too. Suddenly there was a lot more to balance and the variations that were possible became a lot greater.
That's just one example from myself. Many others might also show photos with a similar thoughts in that they can't discern the best composition yet.
Others might have subtle differences again which tell slightly different stories or which capture little bits of a moment. It might be that they've captured action either side of the "key" moment or that they've captured a range of potential key moments.
Going back to horses (as they are easy for this) and going over a jump you might get a shot before take off; at take off; in the air; coming down to land; landed and moving on. Each of those situations "can" be a good shot; but with differences in the situation there might only be one or two that are ideal in any given situation that the photographer is in. Thus it takes a little time to learn what looks good.
And then you've some who feel that its not just a single photo that matters. That they want to show a sequence of events one after the other in that small moment that they captured. Thus the individual photo isn't, to them, as important as the set when shown together.
In the end we come here to learn; expecting people to have already learned how to learn before they come here to learn is rather like expecting students to turn up at school pre-taught in what they are going to learn. Sure we can debate and argue to the end of time about how one should conduct themselves or how we'd "like" potential members and learners to act - but in the end this is a forum. It's NOT a university nor a school nor a college. There's no pre-posting exam or criteria; there's no strict standard of content (beyond prohibitive rules such as no porn; and general expectations of good social behaviour) etc...
Debating this point is almost pointless as its just the same old-guard talking about it and we generally get to the same conclusions each time. In my view it would be better to focus such efforts on helping others learn than to debate and nit-pick how they choose to learn.
I certainly found this with equine photography as compared to wildlife. In wildlife one might often have a single subject or a group or a single focus point of action - thus once you've a little experience the photos almost compose themselves; you just have to get it right in camera or shoot wide and crop a little in editing.
In equine suddenly I found there were TWO often differently focused subjects in every shot (rider + mount) plus there was a much busier background; then there were other elements (eg a jump) in the plane as the subjects. Foreground might also have a few things too. Suddenly there was a lot more to balance and the variations that were possible became a lot greater.
That's just one example from myself. Many others might also show photos with a similar thoughts in that they can't discern the best composition yet.
Others might have subtle differences again which tell slightly different stories or which capture little bits of a moment. It might be that they've captured action either side of the "key" moment or that they've captured a range of potential key moments.
Going back to horses (as they are easy for this) and going over a jump you might get a shot before take off; at take off; in the air; coming down to land; landed and moving on. Each of those situations "can" be a good shot; but with differences in the situation there might only be one or two that are ideal in any given situation that the photographer is in. Thus it takes a little time to learn what looks good.
And then you've some who feel that its not just a single photo that matters. That they want to show a sequence of events one after the other in that small moment that they captured. Thus the individual photo isn't, to them, as important as the set when shown together.
In the end we come here to learn; expecting people to have already learned how to learn before they come here to learn is rather like expecting students to turn up at school pre-taught in what they are going to learn. Sure we can debate and argue to the end of time about how one should conduct themselves or how we'd "like" potential members and learners to act - but in the end this is a forum. It's NOT a university nor a school nor a college. There's no pre-posting exam or criteria; there's no strict standard of content (beyond prohibitive rules such as no porn; and general expectations of good social behaviour) etc...
Debating this point is almost pointless as its just the same old-guard talking about it and we generally get to the same conclusions each time. In my view it would be better to focus such efforts on helping others learn than to debate and nit-pick how they choose to learn.