Need a little help with off-camera lighting

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  1. ottor

    ottor No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I "Was" going to expand a little and get some off-camera lighting.. I dont know much about "Slave" flashes or other lighting extras, but I was going to learn...... Then.... - I get the news that all State Employees are getting a 16 hour/month furlough until July... That puts the crimp in things for now.. (At my hourly wage, that actually hurts a lot right now.):grumpy:

    So - I need to go as cheap as possible (For now)... Any suggestions as so some flashes, triggers that I can use with a Canon 450D ? I currently have a Promaster 7400EDF that, I believe, won't work in a system - Some are triggered by other flashes, and some are radio triggered - any of those choices better in your opinion? - Any suggestons on a small system that will get me a little more experience in lighting options?

    Thanks,

    r
     
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    What do you plan on shooting? That factors in big time to what equipment you need.

    For a flash there is always the recommended Vivitar 285HV.

    Vivitar | 285HV Flash | 233965 | B&H Photo Video

    It will run you about 90$, and also keep in mind that it doesn't have TTL capabilities.

    If you just like to do macro, and more casual stuff you could just buy a hot shoe cable and attach the flashgun to that. I don't know if the XSi has wireless flash capabilities, so a more expensive flash unit might be out.

    Other than a hot shoe cable you can get inexpensive wireless triggers.

    [ame="http://www.amazon.com/CowboyStudio-NPT-04-Wireless-Receiver-cowboystudio/dp/B002W3IXZW/"]Amazon.com: CowboyStudio NPT-04 4 Channel Wireless Hot Shoe Flash Trigger Receiver for Canon EOS, Nikon, Olympus & Pentax Flashes Other products by cowboystudio: Camera & Photo[/ame]

    So far quite a few people on this forum have gotten these models and are fairly pleased. I myself am probably going to get them soon to.

    EDIT:
    I just looked at your flickr and I am not sure why you feel like you need a external flash. You shoot mainly landscapes.
     
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    gryphonslair99 Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    benhasajeep TPF Noob!

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    I have had Cactus V4 radio triggers for about 9 months now. I made a 2nd order for more of them about 2 months ago. Ordered more so I could use more flashes not becasue one went bad. I now have 2 transmitters and 12 recievers. Clear line of site they work well up to 225'.

    It doesn't look like your flash has manual settings for power so will need a new flash. Can alway look for a used flash as well (does not have to be Canon, just manual power controls). The Vivitar 285 is back in production too and it has a very good following. Gadget Infinity is the suplier and ships from China. Midwest Photo Exchange as far as I know is the only in US distribuitor. The only thing they admit is the supplied batteries are weak / dont last long.
     
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    ottor No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Yup - cuz I don't have the lighting.... :mrgreen::mrgreen: -= Now I can do something else....

    Just ordered

    2 Vivitar 285's
    1 CowboyStudio Trans/Recvr
    1 CowboyStudio Recvr
    1 Lighting Stand/bracket/umbrella

    Appreciate the comments and suggestions - should be fun !!

    r
     
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    LearnMyShot TPF Noob!

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    for studio stuff see my website...it's free and will show you the absolutely cheapest way to go other than sunshine...cheers!
     
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    Rocky8 TPF Noob!

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    Save your dough for your medical insurance. It's not free, you know.
     
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    I think if you have 2 flashes and 2 receivers. You need 2 light stands, 2 brackets .....

    Maybe add a reflector(s) if you do not have that yet.
     
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    ottor No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Yup, will pick them up next payday... can you reccomend a reflector? - I know they're cheap, but is there a better kind/color/shape?

    I'll get those items as well as a snoot & grid in a couple of weeks.. i'm reading the Strobist and cant' wait to try some stuff out...

    tks,

    r
     
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    The most convenient, are the circular collapsible ones.
    Collapsible Reflectors
    They fold up nicely are are easy to pack. The trouble with the circular ones, is that you need a person (voice activated light stand) to hold them (or some elaborate clamp system).
    I like the 5-in-1 type, as it gives you a few options...my favoraite being the diffusion panel, which you can hold up between your subject and the sun, making for beautiful light.

    But really, anything can be a reflector. For example, you could pick up a 20x30 piece of white foam core board for a couple bucks, works great as a reflector.
     
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    ottor No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I've used a windshield shade that's a reflective aluminum surface before, but it's pretty harsh... Guess anything can be used if it works...:mrgreen:

    tks for the suggestions....

    r
     

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