2003 Tomahawk MotorCycle

[Trever1t]

it's not ugly

It's a machine that brings technology to a fine art

Maybe I'm biased, I ride a big hulky bike

 

[nos33]

it is processed to the point it is grungy. if you like that look then great if you don't then you don't. I like the composition but I am not fond of the grungy look.

But it is still your photo and if you are happy with it then be happy. don't rely too much on others criticism because people are not infallible.

 

[vipgraphx]

They should just stay in the flower or pet forums.

:lmao::lmao:

VIP
Once again People are are saying too much processing.
I understand what Bynx is saying but He is also one of the most experienced HDR guys here.
I see your points but I wanted to ask you is there too much processing on the bike itself?

Here is a photo of the bike coming straight out of a camera. Maybe this will help your opinion.

JRE313 , I have told you before, take the comments like a grain of salt. Most folks giving you feedback are not into HDR if they do except it they want a "photo realistic" image. No matter what you post unless its "photo realistic" it will always be to much. Don't process photos for them process them for you and what you like. Post the photos and leave it at that. I think you have gotten much better from when you started and some of it is probably because you are listening to the advice that has help and push you. There is a point where you need to stay true to your self and thats whats going to make you better. There are to many styles photography and processing not one is right or better over another. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

As far as your first image and your question about to much processing..

I would say IMO after looking at the original there is something that I would say you pushed to much and that would be the noise reduction.. The chrome looks great! The metal work on the bike looks odd but because I think what ever filter you used it brought out to much detail and then you went and through on a noise reduction filter or softener that gave it look that I am not fond of. I use to like using topaz denoise but I find it that it does not do a great job 100% of the time. It is a hit an miss. Sometimes it really works very well and sometimes it produces results that look weird. BUT that is just me and my opinion, it does not make it right. Like I said if you need to process images the way you like. I know you are trying to find your niche and it will come. Just don't become what others want you to become.

Bynx is experience but, he also likes a certain style as well. He said your processing was on point so if you respect his input then there you go ...listen to the ones that understand more about advanced HDR.......!!

 

[cgipson1]

listen to the ones that understand more about advanced HDR.......!!

So the majority here cannot critique an HDR photo because we lack the specialized knowledge the the "HDR specialists" have? So we can't judge a HDR photo as to whether it is bad or not.. based on normal art and photography philosophy / thoughts/ rules?

SO every one else who commented negatively (the majority).. stating it is over processed IS WRONG? What a CROCK! lol

 

[vipgraphx]

listen to the ones that understand more about advanced HDR.......!!

So the majority here cannot critique an HDR photo because we lack the specialized knowledge the the "HDR specialists" have? So we can't judge a HDR photo as to whether it is bad or not.. based on normal art and photography philosophy / thoughts/ rules?

SO every one else who commented negatively (the majority).. stating it is over processed IS WRONG? What a CROCK! lol

Your a chump and have NO RESPECT for YOU!! go back to your bugs section!

 

[cgipson1]

listen to the ones that understand more about advanced HDR.......!!

So the majority here cannot critique an HDR photo because we lack the specialized knowledge the the "HDR specialists" have? So we can't judge a HDR photo as to whether it is bad or not.. based on normal art and photography philosophy / thoughts/ rules?

SO every one else who commented negatively (the majority).. stating it is over processed IS WRONG? What a CROCK! lol

Your a chump and have NO RESPECT for YOU!! go back to your bugs section!

Hahaha! I assume you mean " You are a chump, and I have NO RESPECT for YOU!! Go back to your Bug Section!".. Right? Capitalization, proper punctuation and good grammar show education and intelligence, after all!

And you didn't answer my question!! SO EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG???? Is that what you are saying????

 

[Joel_W]

I really like the HDR Image. Just simply outstanding, especially when you compare it to the original non-HDR that was posted. What a tremendous improvement to the overall ambiance of the image presented to us, the viewers.

I especially like how the different metals have different tonal qualities. Just makes it pop that much more.

 

[vipgraphx]

So the majority here cannot critique an HDR photo because we lack the specialized knowledge the the "HDR specialists" have? So we can't judge a HDR photo as to whether it is bad or not.. based on normal art and photography philosophy / thoughts/ rules?

SO every one else who commented negatively (the majority).. stating it is over processed IS WRONG? What a CROCK! lol

Your a chump and have NO RESPECT for YOU!! go back to your bugs section!

Hahaha! I assume you mean " You are a chump, and I have NO RESPECT for YOU!! Go back to your Bug Section!".. Right? Capitalization, proper punctuation and good grammar show education and intelligence, after all!

And you didn't answer my question!! SO EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG???? Is that what you are saying????

Just to add to what I was saying the first 6 posts are of people that do not post HDR images so there feed back is going to be exactly what it is. You can judge all you want there are no laws on that but, does not mean you are right and when you judge your going to base it off a realistic world with tunnel vision on with no exceptions...thus why I said to take it with a grain of salt.

based on normal art and photography philosophy / thoughts/ rules?

This is a crock- If you are afraid to break the rules than your just another robot! You can not compare soccer to baseball other than they are both sports. Trying to give advice to someone who plays soccer baseball advice is not going to work out even when they are both sports.

Same thing applies. All your feedback on HDR is always about processing. You come in close minded and prejudice from the moment you enter the HDR forum why do you even bother? How is this helping anyone?

Do I go into the macro or bug section and try to give advice about that..NO because, I do not like taking pictures of bugs and I have nothing to offer other than negative comments about why macros of bugs is.........fill in the blank. Why bother posting in areas where you do not appreciate the effort or methods used it does more harm than good.

You talk about about intelligence but lack respect for people outside your bubble of piers. You are constantly rude and belittling to many folks and not just here in the HDR section but, other areas as well.

Your a internet bully.....I would love to meet you in person and see if you have the same tone face to face.

 

[fenderjaguar]

No one is right or wrong. I say nice HDR.

 

[Ballistics]

Your a chump and have NO RESPECT for YOU!! go back to your bugs section!

Hahaha! I assume you mean " You are a chump, and I have NO RESPECT for YOU!! Go back to your Bug Section!".. Right? Capitalization, proper punctuation and good grammar show education and intelligence, after all!

And you didn't answer my question!! SO EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG???? Is that what you are saying????

Just to add to what I was saying the first 6 posts are of people that do not post HDR images so there feed back is going to be exactly what it is. You can judge all you want there are no laws on that but, does not mean you are right and when you judge your going to base it off a realistic world with tunnel vision on with no exceptions...thus why I said to take it with a grain of salt.

based on normal art and photography philosophy / thoughts/ rules?

This is a crock- If you are afraid to break the rules than your just another robot! You can not compare soccer to baseball other than they are both sports. Trying to give advice to someone who plays soccer baseball advice is not going to work out even when they are both sports.

Same thing applies. All your feedback on HDR is always about processing. You come in close minded and prejudice from the moment you enter the HDR forum why do you even bother? How is this helping anyone?

Do I go into the macro or bug section and try to give advice about that..NO because, I do not like taking pictures of bugs and I have nothing to offer other than negative comments about why macros of bugs is.........fill in the blank. Why bother posting in areas where you do not appreciate the effort or methods used it does more harm than good.

You talk about about intelligence but lack respect for people outside your bubble of piers. You are constantly rude and belittling to many folks and not just here in the HDR section but, other areas as well.

Your a internet bully.....I would love to meet you in person and see if you have the same tone face to face.

I think you need to get over yourself and your bias. You think Bynx's comment is hysterical, but you have no respect for CGibson and call him a bully (at least that's what I think you were trying to say)? Doesn't add up.

 

[cgipson1]

Your a chump and have NO RESPECT for YOU!! go back to your bugs section!

Hahaha! I assume you mean " You are a chump, and I have NO RESPECT for YOU!! Go back to your Bug Section!".. Right? Capitalization, proper punctuation and good grammar show education and intelligence, after all!

And you didn't answer my question!! SO EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG???? Is that what you are saying????

Just to add to what I was saying the first 6 posts are of people that do not post HDR images so there feed back is going to be exactly what it is. You can judge all you want there are no laws on that but, does not mean you are right and when you judge your going to base it off a realistic world with tunnel vision on with no exceptions...thus why I said to take it with a grain of salt.

based on normal art and photography philosophy / thoughts/ rules?

This is a crock- If you are afraid to break the rules than your just another robot! You can not compare soccer to baseball other than they are both sports. Trying to give advice to someone who plays soccer baseball advice is not going to work out even when they are both sports.

Same thing applies. All your feedback on HDR is always about processing. You come in close minded and prejudice from the moment you enter the HDR forum why do you even bother? How is this helping anyone?

Do I go into the macro or bug section and try to give advice about that..NO because, I do not like taking pictures of bugs and I have nothing to offer other than negative comments about why macros of bugs is.........fill in the blank. Why bother posting in areas where you do not appreciate the effort or methods used it does more harm than good.

You talk about about intelligence but lack respect for people outside your bubble of piers. You are constantly rude and belittling to many folks and not just here in the HDR section but, other areas as well.

Your a internet bully.....I would love to meet you in person and see if you have the same tone face to face.

Yo, VIP! I do use HDR! I use it as it was meant to be used.. to increase the dynamic range in photos that exceed what the camera can capture! I have been using HDR longer than you have.. I can guarantee it! The difference is that I don't use the "TONE MAPPING" part of it to produce unrealistic photos that look like cartoons, and then try to intimate that they are "ART"!

When the majority is trying to tell you something.. and you refuse to listen, that is just being bullheaded and stubborn.

Telling the "majority" they are wrong (when many of them have much more experience than you do.. more education than you do, and a much wider experience with photography in general (since they don't limit themselves to one small aspect of it) is just ludicrous!

Totally disregarding input from others.. (and telling others to ignore that input also) is just rude... and shows a total disrespect for everyone that comments! There are those here who comment on HDR that know something about HDR.. they just happen to disagree with your "concept" of HDR, and so you "ignore" them.. or call them "haters"! Not a good way to grow and learn, IMO!

I will concede that done properly.. some photos can benefit from Tone Mapping.. and over-saturation! But not ALL.. not even most! Some of them are even art.. and good art! But I have seldom seen much here that qualifies.. but I have seen some!

 

[vipgraphx]

Ballistics

I think you should see you way out of this conversation. You have nothing to contribute.

 

[JRE313]

My photos may not be great ,but they definitely stir controversy

 

[Trever1t]

LMAO!!! Nothing better than that! :lmao:

 

[nos33]

Post the originals, i wanna play around