A few more shots from recent.

[Buckster]

I must say again my main concern is that its been posted on a public forum. Now if my daughter was an aspiring model and I was ok for her to be photo'd in a bikini for a portfolio etc I still wouldn't be happy for it to be posted on a public forum for anyone to see.

Why? What about all the strangers that can see her at the beach? How do you deal with that?

 

[ShooterJ]

People here really don't understand what they should really be concerned about. Lol

Disregard all the rest. I'd be wasting my time. Look people.. a lot of you know photography pretty well but it's obvious you don't know predator mentality or MO. So stick to what you do know and just take this for what it is... a studio shot photograph.

 

[amolitor]

In a general way, while continuing to express no specific opinion on the sexuality of these pictures, context DOES matter:

A girl in a bikini lying on a towel on the beach is not the same as the same girl in the same bikini in the same position, on a boardroom table. Buckster's green screen can indeed change a non-sexual photograph into a sexual one. Or dinner into breakfast, or suicide into murder, or a diver into an astronaut.

Context matters.

 

[ShooterJ]

The photo was taken out of context in this thread. Lots of accusations (many inappropriate when you start hinting at pedophile) and ideas about what predators do and don't look for and WHERE they look.. when really, this was just a studio shot. As was indicated, this could well be for a number of reasons and only the parties involved could tell you what those were.

People in general often cause uproars over things they shouldn't. I see that happen all the time .. make no mistake, while you're spending your time trashing a piece of photography for context, there are other children in REAL danger.. or REALLY being abused/harmed/inappropriately displayed for gain.

If you are so hard charging and want to do something to stop those issues, then go do it. Because on THIS thread, you're accomplishing absolutely nothing.

 

[DanielLewis76]

I must say again my main concern is that its been posted on a public forum. Now if my daughter was an aspiring model and I was ok for her to be photo'd in a bikini for a portfolio etc I still wouldn't be happy for it to be posted on a public forum for anyone to see.

Why? What about all the strangers that can see her at the beach? How do you deal with that?

For the same reason its not ok to wander around a beach taking photos of kids.

 

[ShooterJ]

I must say again my main concern is that its been posted on a public forum. Now if my daughter was an aspiring model and I was ok for her to be photo'd in a bikini for a portfolio etc I still wouldn't be happy for it to be posted on a public forum for anyone to see.

Why? What about all the strangers that can see her at the beach? How do you deal with that?

For the same reason its not ok to wander around a beach taking photos of kids.

That didn't answer the question.. the question is, why can they be on a beach, in public, seen by EVERYONE in a bikini.. but not on a forum? If they're on the beach in a bikini, I don't need the camera do I? It's in public... I can see them. I have eyes.

So what's the difference and what's your answer?

 

[Tailgunner]

I really don't care how anyone want to rationalize it, it's uncomfortable to click on a thread containing images of underaged girls in bikinis. Why is "NSFW" not used in the title? We only use "NSFW" for 18 yrs and older women wearing bikinis?

 

[DanOstergren30 5]

In a general way, while continuing to express no specific opinion on the sexuality of these pictures, context DOES matter:

A girl in a bikini lying on a towel on the beach is not the same as the same girl in the same bikini in the same position, on a boardroom table. Buckster's green screen can indeed change a non-sexual photograph into a sexual one. Or dinner into breakfast, or suicide into murder, or a diver into an astronaut.

Context matters.

Riiiiight. It's a studio, not a stripper stage. This is getting idiotic.

 

[amolitor]

In a general way, while continuing to express no specific opinion on the sexuality of these pictures, context DOES matter:

A girl in a bikini lying on a towel on the beach is not the same as the same girl in the same bikini in the same position, on a boardroom table. Buckster's green screen can indeed change a non-sexual photograph into a sexual one. Or dinner into breakfast, or suicide into murder, or a diver into an astronaut.

Context matters.

Riiiiight. It's a studio, not a stripper stage. This is getting idiotic.

When did I mention the specific pictures in this thread? It says "in a general way" right at the beginning of my comment. When you quote me, please do me the courtesy of responding to what I actually said instead of.. I don't even know what you're responding to.

 

[ShooterJ]

The moderators didn't seem to have any problem .. and one even recommended people not read too much into it (which happened regardless hehehe).. there's nothing criminal about the image and the photographer was quite obviously displaying it as part of a set.

I don't find it disturbing or offensive. I took it for what it was. People always have and always will blow things out of proportion though.

 

[Mach0]

As a parent, I wouldn't allow this shot. If her parents allowed it, it's not our problem.

 

[Rgollar]

When I saw these pictures not once did it occur to me that it was just pictures. Not until I read the comments did I realize how much different I think then other people. I just did not see anything sick in my mind. Maybe because I have children and am used to kids in bathing suits. All I saw was a child in a picture nothing more so any other thought beyond that is just beyond my understanding. What I find so sickening is that we have to even to discuss this. Would I put my kids picture up in a bathing suit? I might have because I just dont think of it as being any thing then just a family memory. Now that I see so many people see it as something other then that is just scary so I would not now. I can see the concern some people have, I just cant comprehend people thinking any thing else. I guess I am just naive.

 

[Geaux]

Can't wait for OP to come back and settle all this nonsense.

 

[JacaRanda]

Can't wait for OP to come back and settle all this nonsense.

I would not try to settle anything if it were me. I would not be shocked if they never posted anything here again. If I were so concerned, I would report it to someone who might be able to do something about it.

 

[Buckster]

Can't wait for OP to come back and settle all this nonsense.

how would anything the OP has to say settle anything?

There are a group of people here having a very strong negative reaction to this photo. They say things like they'd put their foot up someone's a** for shooting or displaying this photo of THEIR kid. Will that change with something the OP has to say about it? I seriously doubt it. And those of us on the other side who don't have a problem with it - are we likely to change our minds based on anything the OP has to say about it? Also not likely. So how do you expect that the OP will "settle it"?

Do you imagine that if the OP comes back and says, "why yes, I phoned the parents and got their permission before the shoot, detailed that some of the shots would be in bikinis, all shot in my studio, and then posted on the internet", that those folks having the strong reaction will suddenly think it's just fine? Why should they? Would such a statement by the OP convince them that it'd be okay for them to put similar photos of their kids on the internet, or allow other photographers to do so? From their reactions and statements thus far, it sure doesn't seem like it - but WHY - that's my question.

I don't think any of them have actually explained WHY they're having such a negative reaction. What is it EXACTLY that they think a posted photo DOES that's so bad? Does it steal their child's soul, or something? Why is it that they're okay with their child wearing that attire at the beach in front of untold numbers of strangers, but they're so bent out of shape over a photo of it? Either way, people can see their daughter dressed like that, but in one situation they're flipping out and even using terms of violence like putting a foot up someone's a** as a reaction over it.

So, what I don't understand, in a nutshell, is: What, EXACTLY, do they think that photo DOES that's so bad that they should have a reaction like this? I get that they don't like it, but WHY don't they like it? What bad thing do they think might happen by having that photo posted or displayed on a photography forum, or in a museum, or on the wall of a talent agency, or anywhere else for that matter, especially when they're just fine with strangers seeing their kid on a public beach dressed that way?

Seriously, I don't get it.