A few more shots from recent.

[Indofred]

I really don't care how anyone want to rationalize it, it's uncomfortable to click on a thread containing images of underaged girls in bikinis. Why is "NSFW" not used in the title? We only use "NSFW" for 18 yrs and older women wearing bikinis?

I wouldn't say it was uncomfortable but I wouldn't have taken them myself and I wouldn't allow such photos of my daughter.
I'll go with personal morality.
However, not everyone thinks as I do so, as there is clearly nothing pornographic and no intent, I must bow to their judgement in this case.

 

[Buckster]

I really don't care how anyone want to rationalize it, it's uncomfortable to click on a thread containing images of underaged girls in bikinis. Why is "NSFW" not used in the title? We only use "NSFW" for 18 yrs and older women wearing bikinis?

I wouldn't say it was uncomfortable but I wouldn't have taken them myself and I wouldn't allow such photos of my daughter.

Would you allow her to wear a bikini at the beach?

 

[Juga]

I really don't care how anyone want to rationalize it, it's uncomfortable to click on a thread containing images of underaged girls in bikinis. Why is "NSFW" not used in the title? We only use "NSFW" for 18 yrs and older women wearing bikinis?

I wouldn't say it was uncomfortable but I wouldn't have taken them myself and I wouldn't allow such photos of my daughter.

Would you allow her to wear a bikini at the beach?

I will not allow my daughter to wear a bikini until she is 35...

 

[Geaux]

Can't wait for OP to come back and settle all this nonsense.

how would anything the OP has to say settle anything?

There are a group of people here having a very strong negative reaction to this photo. They say things like they'd put their foot up someone's a** for shooting or displaying this photo of THEIR kid. Will that change with something the OP has to say about it? I seriously doubt it. And those of us on the other side who don't have a problem with it - are we likely to change our minds based on anything the OP has to say about it? Also not likely. So how do you expect that the OP will "settle it"?

Do you imagine that if the OP comes back and says, "why yes, I phoned the parents and got their permission before the shoot, detailed that some of the shots would be in bikinis, all shot in my studio, and then posted on the internet", that those folks having the strong reaction will suddenly think it's just fine? Why should they? Would such a statement by the OP convince them that it'd be okay for them to put similar photos of their kids on the internet, or allow other photographers to do so? From their reactions and statements thus far, it sure doesn't seem like it - but WHY - that's my question.

I don't think any of them have actually explained WHY they're having such a negative reaction. What is it EXACTLY that they think a posted photo DOES that's so bad? Does it steal their child's soul, or something? Why is it that they're okay with their child wearing that attire at the beach in front of untold numbers of strangers, but they're so bent out of shape over a photo of it? Either way, people can see their daughter dressed like that, but in one situation they're flipping out and even using terms of violence like putting a foot up someone's a** as a reaction over it.

So, what I don't understand, in a nutshell, is: What, EXACTLY, do they think that photo DOES that's so bad that they should have a reaction like this? I get that they don't like it, but WHY don't they like it? What bad thing do they think might happen by having that photo posted or displayed on a photography forum, or in a museum, or on the wall of a talent agency, or anywhere else for that matter, especially when they're just fine with strangers seeing their kid on a public beach dressed that way?

Seriously, I don't get it.

buckster, i can tell you feel VERY strongly against others opinion that differ from yours, there's no need to "get it" or understand. It's their opinion vs yours.

The Reason I said I wanted the OP to respond was to see if the bikini shots were taken during his daughters and friends sleepover party from the other thread. Not saying he's a pedo, as I'd never accuse anything of the sort based off of assumptions, just wondering how it evolved into getting a young girl in a bikini (if they weren't swimming before). And yeah, it would make me feel a little better if he said it was a paid portfolio shoot for an upcoming model requested by the parents vs him just snapping photos of her in his studio without their knowledge.



as far as the photos are concerned, I really liked the lighting used just like the ones in your prior thread.

 

[Designer]

You know what - I too do not see anything sexy there. I am just curious: why the bloody bikini ??

Actually, that is offensive.

Meanwhile; the reason for the photograph, including the reason for that particular costume is simply fun for the girls. They wanted a photo shoot, in all likelyhood chose the costumes, and perhaps even the poses. Not having seen any other youngsters besides this one, I will have to guess that the others made very similar decisions.

Additionally, nearly any young person of this age will be experimenting with adult themes in any way that seems appropriate to them at the time.

Meanwhile, the OP just wanted to share. Thank you, sir! Good shots all!

 

[pixmedic]

I think we have pretty much exhausted the various opinions of that particular photo on this thread.
any other comments should be directed towards C&C.
personally, I look forward to NoelNTexas posting more studio shots. this was a pretty nice set.

 

[Buckster]

buckster, i can tell you feel VERY strongly against others opinion that differ from yours, there's no need to "get it" or understand. It's their opinion vs yours.

I'm simply trying to understand where they're coming from with such strongly held beliefs. I don't understand why they feel that way, but I'd like to. I'm hoping that if I ask, someone can explain it to me.

The Reason I said I wanted the OP to respond was to see if the bikini shots were taken during his daughters and friends sleepover party from the other thread.

How would that "settle" anything in the current discussion?

 

[Geaux]

The Reason I said I wanted the OP to respond was to see if the bikini shots were taken during his daughters and friends sleepover party from the other thread.

How would that "settle" anything in the current discussion?

you our cut out a huge telling piece from that sentence that would explain things and sort of settle why the images were taken. You took a part of the sentence and made it out of context.

 

[Buckster]

The Reason I said I wanted the OP to respond was to see if the bikini shots were taken during his daughters and friends sleepover party from the other thread.

How would that "settle" anything in the current discussion?

you our cut out a huge telling piece from that sentence that would explain things and sort of settle why the images were taken. You took a part of the sentence and made it out of context.

Even with that part left in, I don't see how the OP can settle the current discussion, or "nonsense" as you put it, as I explained in my earlier post. Everybody on both sides will still feel the way they do about such photos being posted/displayed - nothing changes, so nothing gets "settled".

If you disagree with that assessment, just tell me how you imagine it would "settle" anything.

 

[amolitor]

I am disgusted at the insinuations that anyone who feels that these pictures are inappropriate must be a pedophile.

That SHOULD be an instant ban, right there. It's totally out of line, and borderline actionable in the USA.

In fact, let me call on the moderators right now: Do the right thing, and ban everyone who made such a vile accusation, for a week. Right now. We have people ACCUSING OTHER PEOPLE OF PEDOPHILIA for god's sake.

On what planet is that appropriate?

 

[Buckster]

I am disgusted at the insinuations that anyone who feels that these pictures are inappropriate must be a pedophile.

That SHOULD be an instant ban, right there. It's totally out of line, and borderline actionable in the USA.

In fact, let me call on the moderators right now: Do the right thing, and ban everyone who made such a vile accusation, for a week. Right now. We have people ACCUSING OTHER PEOPLE OF PEDOPHILIA for god's sake.

On what planet is that appropriate?

I didn't see anyone actually accuse anyone else of pedophilia or of being a pedophile. Quote the post(s) in question if you're going to make accusations and try to get people banned over it.

 

[pixmedic]

seriously people? Am I invisible here?
move it along please. this is just beating a dead horse now.
also...if there WAS an actual accusation of someone being a pedophile by a member, please report that post and it will be looked into.

 

[Buckster]

seriously people? Am I invisible here?
move it along please. this is just beating a dead horse now.
also...if there WAS an actual accusation of someone being a pedophile by a member, please report that post and it will be looked into.

Is there a place on this discussion forum where we're allowed to have a discussion?

 

[Overread]

*thread momentarily paused for mod review - take a moment to head outside and enjoy the summer and take some photos*

 

[Overread]

And after reading through the thread will remain locked since it appears that even after 2 notices from a moderator people were unable to drop the subject. When a mod says to drop something you drop it - discuss in private with the specific mod if you wish to appeal the choice.
The thread had moved far off course and honestly the subject deserved its own thread by now to leave this one to resume its original course.

Considering the very specific context that started the discussion I'm not going to split the threads - if you seriously wish to DEBATE this separate topic please start a separate thread with a generalist approach in the discussions section. Note that based upon the behaviour in this thread and the heated matter of the context of the discussion you get 1 chance only.

OP you are free to repost the photos in a new thread for C&C if you wish.