Again...

[EIngerson]

Perhaps not many people have the instinct to put life and limb in danger for the potential benefit of others' safety. I'm sure there are those people out there still.

That's the problem! Life and limb are ALREADY IN DANGER.

 

[mishele]

Regardless of what happened today, I'm goin to keep teaching my son that violence isn't the answer. I can't prepare him for what happened today. (my son is 6)

 

[oldhippy]

Do you teach your children how to deal w/ the 99.9% of the situations that they will come in contact w/ in life or do you teach them about the .1%?
Again, no one is prepared for these kinds of situations.

I'm not trying to go all extremist or anything, but I disagree, you can be BETTER prepared to react to these situations. And when it pops up on the news that these tragedies happened, I remind my sons that they can do something about it instead of just sit there.

I think the defend youself idea is a crock of sh*t. I can not and will not imagine 6 year old kids defending..the poor things were horified..get real..most adults run.
Secure our schools,theaters,and public places.. I've got 8 kids and 23 grands..we need to protect them. Not teach them to get in harms way.just MHO..Ed

 

[bentcountershaft]

I don't know. I don't know what I would do if I were there, I don't know how I would feel if I had a child at all let alone if my child was there and I certainly don't know of any answers. All I know is that in my 37 years the 6 o'clock news has never made me cry before.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

People need to stop being so afraid of dealing with issues. Parents don't want to believe their kids are struggling with emotional or psychological issues, and people think counselling is only for almost-divorced couples and psychopaths. If we could show a little respect and love to our fellow man, and be there for people when they struggle instead of stigmatize them for having emotional or psychological issues, I really think we could make a difference. Again, treat the disease, not the symptom...

THIS!

I don't feel like typing a whole lot at the moment...and this subject...oh man!

This is the problem. People don talk about their problems. We have been taught to keep our stuff hidden. Gays are bad, thus they are forced to hide. Yeah, that has NO effect on a person. Couple that with a growing sense of entitlement (caused by the "everyone is a winner" movement?) of people today. Bad stuff is never our fault, we blame it on something else.

I'm having some absinthe and just lost my point.
Goodbye.

 

[EIngerson]

Do you teach your children how to deal w/ the 99.9% of the situations that they will come in contact w/ in life or do you teach them about the .1%?
Again, no one is prepared for these kinds of situations.

I'm not trying to go all extremist or anything, but I disagree, you can be BETTER prepared to react to these situations. And when it pops up on the news that these tragedies happened, I remind my sons that they can do something about it instead of just sit there.

I think the defend youself idea is a crock of sh*t. I can not and will not imagine 6 year old kids defending..the poor things were horified..get real..most adults run.
Secure our schools,theaters,and public places.. I've got 8 kids and 23 grands..we need to protect them. Not teach them to get in harms way.just MHO..Ed

Ed,

I'm not saying a 6 year old is ready or capable of hearing it. No one, to include myself, can't imagine their children in that environment. But...

These incidents are increasingly common in the news and everyone recognizes them as horrible and tragic. I disagree with the idea that nothing can be done and these things can't be prepared for. (I never said prevented, just that the damage could be minimized) I whole heartedly disagree with the idea "self defense is a crock of S$%t". I respect everyones opinion and stance on the subject though. The thought of these shooting sprees is disturbing and grotesque, but they happen and they happen in our home towns.

Just thought I would ask and see where it went.

Eric

 

[EIngerson]

People need to stop being so afraid of dealing with issues. Parents don't want to believe their kids are struggling with emotional or psychological issues, and people think counselling is only for almost-divorced couples and psychopaths. If we could show a little respect and love to our fellow man, and be there for people when they struggle instead of stigmatize them for having emotional or psychological issues, I really think we could make a difference. Again, treat the disease, not the symptom...

THIS!

I don't feel like typing a whole lot at the moment...and this subject...oh man!

This is the problem. People don talk about their problems. We have been taught to keep our stuff hidden. Gays are bad, thus they are forced to hide. Yeah, that has NO effect on a person. Couple that with a growing sense of entitlement (caused by the "everyone is a winner" movement?) of people today. Bad stuff is never our fault, we blame it on something else.

I'm having some absinthe and just lost my point.
Goodbye.

Good call. lol. Have a great night.

 

[sleist]

All the monsters in the world have been created by abusing a child in one way or another.
The abused become the abusers. And so it goes.
It will never stop until we stop the abuse.

I imagine if we heard the killers story a week ago, he might have been considered the victim. Now there are 28.

This isn't about violent games, or movies, or access to guns.
This is about the sickness that's passed on by abused children that grow up to abuse children that grow up to abuse children ...
And a society that did nothing.

 

[Mully]

Somehow in my heart I believe photographers can make a difference, we just have to choose to.

 

[Pallycow]

I don't like to get involved in these type of talks. I do however love the idea of simply what I call "holding up a mirror" to many when I'm trying to show them how stupid they are.

anyway, I saw such a post on FB earlier and I thought I'd share, no idea who the creator of the image is, but here is the link. If it works. To me, this sort of thing does what I like to do, hold up a mirror. Whether or not you believe in God or not, or practice religion or not is irrelevant....the message is what matters. To me anyway, so I thought I'd share.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/644188_526552814037754_1413004826_n.jpg

 

[Pallycow]

To me, it is dumb to place blame in anyone but ourselves. People want to blame guns, blame tv, blame games, blame God. Stop blaming, start doing...or shut up.

 

[Majeed Badizadegan]

Don't know about you guys, but the emotional impact of all this was far greater than even September 11 for me.

There were so many deaths on that day it was/is hard to even begin to fathom. But with this story, it feels so much closer to home.

This is just a small American town of 30,000. A classroom full of helpless, innocent kids in the crosshairs. Lives shattered forever. No sense. No reason. No one to fight back or punish for the heinous crimes. And all just a handful of days before Christmas. I mean, these parents probably had their presents bought already .

It's been eating away at me and like bentcountershaft, news usually doesn't hit me on such a personal level. But this one I believe does for all of us.

 

[Pallycow]

Don't know about you guys, but the emotional impact of all this was far greater than even September 11 for me.

There were so many deaths on that day it was/is hard to even begin to fathom. But with this story, it feels so much closer to home.

This is just a small American town of 30,000. A classroom full of helpless, innocent kids in the crosshairs. Lives shattered forever. No sense. No reason. No one to fight back or punish for the heinous crimes. And all just a handful of days before Christmas. I mean, these parents probably had their presents bought already .

It's been eating away at me and like bentcountershaft, news usually doesn't hit me on such a personal level. But this one does for all of us.

That's kinda what sucks about it. We just have to accept it. We can't punish anyone, we can't do anything about it, it's done. There is no retaliation. Just accept what has happened has actually happened. Unlike 9-11, just to use your reference...there was retaliation, action. etc. (not to get into that event...so please don't tangent on it)

but yeah...It's horrifying, and even those of us not personally affected can't do anything about it but basically give a WTF? I mean... kids for ****s sake...kids. WTF? Enough said.

 

[Mully]

I don't know who here prays but if you do keep all those families in your prayers... they need prayers. God Bless!!

 

[mishele]

No matter the who, what, or why these horrific actions were taken today, I will wake up tomorrow and have no regrets. I'll take my son into my arms and have a better appreciation for every moment I have w/ him. =) If anything, maybe that is what we need to take away from this.