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[Streets]

American Boeing 777, seconds from touchdown.

 

[tirediron]

I think this would a stronger image with some horizon elements to help situate the viewer. As-framed we really can't tell if it's taking off, landing, or just stretching it's landing gear...

 

[Streets]

I agree: It would be a stronger image if the airplane was on fire or wadded up in a residential area. My title says it all. have you ever photographed aircraft from the ground? Was there a horizontal reference? Do you know what trailing edge devices are? Do the terms Leading edge flaps or Fowler flaps ring a bell? If you say "no" to any of the above questions, your critique of my photo is moot. What constitutes "stretching it's landing gear"? Never heard that expression. Please restrict your advice to a subject you have some knowledge of. I have been associated with aircraft since the age of fourteen, and that covers 68 years. Been taking photographs even longer.

 

[manaheim]

Whoa.

You're going to need to ease off, Streets. You're WAY out of line. You're on a photography forum, not an aviation mechanic's forum. John is more than qualified to critique your photograph.

He offered some honest and constructive criticism and you outright attacked him.

Not acceptable.

 

[deggimatt]

He just offered you constructive criticism. Ease off!

 

[Jon_Are]

I have no clue what leading edge flaps or Fowler flaps are.

But I do know that this is an uninteresting photograph.

 

[Streets]

Thank you Jon. Nice honest critique.

 

[deggimatt]

The image is cropped too much.

 

[Streets]

He just offered you constructive criticism. Ease off!

How was the criticism constructive? Did he tell me how he would have improved it?

Whoa.

You're going to need to ease off, Streets. You're WAY out of line. You're on a photography forum, not an aviation mechanic's forum. John is more than qualified to critique your photograph.

He offered some honest and constructive criticism and you outright attacked him.

Not acceptable.

Whoa.

You're going to need to ease off, Streets. You're WAY out of line. You're on a photography forum, not an aviation mechanic's forum. John is more than qualified to critique your photograph.

He offered some honest and constructive criticism and you outright attacked him.

Not acceptable.

I offered Tirediron some constructive criticism of my own. How is that an attack? Maybe you can tell me how to include a horizontal reference when photographing an airborne vehicle from the ground or the meaning of "stretching it's landing gear. Am I once again WAAAAAY out of line? Has political correctness also infected this forum?

 

[deggimatt]

Actually he did : "I think this would a stronger image with some horizon elements to help situate the viewer."

 

[smoke665]

Have a little seat time in a Cessna during my youth and fascinated by all things aviation, but truthfully there's not enough there to draw me in to notice the flaps. Now had you shown me front or rear view at the point those tires touched the pavement i would have taken in every little detail.

 

[manaheim]

He just offered you constructive criticism. Ease off!

How was the criticism constructive? Did he tell me how he would have improved it?

Whoa.

You're going to need to ease off, Streets. You're WAY out of line. You're on a photography forum, not an aviation mechanic's forum. John is more than qualified to critique your photograph.

He offered some honest and constructive criticism and you outright attacked him.

Not acceptable.

I offered Tirediron some constructive criticism of my own. How is that an attack? Maybe you can tell me how to include a horizontal reference when photographing an airborne vehicle from the ground or the meaning of "stretching it's landing gear. Am I once again WAAAAAY out of line? Has political correctness also infected this forum?

If you think that's constructive, you won't last on TPF for very long. I'm not going to sit here and point out to you where you mis-stepped. I think it's pretty obvious. If you'd like to discuss it with me privately, send me a private message. Otherwise, drop it.

All further conversation on this thread is to be focused exclusively on the photographic elements of the post. That goes for everyone.

Thank you.

 

[Streets]

I'm totally cool with that. Kinda juiced up the forum though, didn't it?

 

[tirediron]

I agree: It would be a stronger image if the airplane was on fire or wadded up in a residential area. My title says it all. have you ever photographed aircraft from the ground? Was there a horizontal reference? Do you know what trailing edge devices are? Do the terms Leading edge flaps or Fowler flaps ring a bell? If you say "no" to any of the above questions, your critique of my photo is moot. What constitutes "stretching it's landing gear"? Never heard that expression. Please restrict your advice to a subject you have some knowledge of. I have been associated with aircraft since the age of fourteen, and that covers 68 years. Been taking photographs even longer.

As someone who has had experience as a seaborne controller for fast air in combat operations I think I have some knowledge of aircraft, 'though I'm not sure why I would need to be intimately familiar with airframe components to offer critique on a picture of an aeroplane; that seems rather akin to expecting someone to be familiar with human anatomy in order to critique a portrait.

My use of the term "stretching its landing gear" was meant to be a humorous reference akin to a person stretching their legs. Nothing more. Please also note that I said "horizon" reference, NOT horizontal, meaning a reference which would allow the viewer to determine if the aircraft is at 10' or 10,000' or somewhere in between.

The opinions expressed in my post are just that. My opinions. You're free to accept or disregard as you see fit.

 

[KC1]

I think the addition of a wider view showing some relationship to the ground it's landing on in a couple of seconds would help the photo immensely.

If you want the 'average viewer' (unversed in aircraft technologies and control surface purposes) to notice the flaps and control surfaces, perhaps some red circles and arrows with text might be helpful.

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