Another C&C for me please ? You guys are too good not to ask .

churchofgnar · Aug 30, 2012

So you guys just did one C&C for me and confirmed some things I was thinking myself which is great . I now have this image .

Three flashes where used . One left bare one right with an Umbrella and one behind the model facing the wall .

I see now that I have had one photo C&Ced I can see that me light is pretty flat . Not to many shadows working to show depth . Got any other ideas ? Thanks again in advance !!

ronlane · Aug 30, 2012

Her left foot is almost cut off. I'm not a lighting person but it looks a little blown out behind her left shoulder.

PhotoTish · Aug 30, 2012

Both your photos have been in landscape. Portrait orientation would give more height. I think if you cropped out the space to the right (sky) it might work better as the attention would be on the model and the rocks make quite a nice background. :thumbup:

tirediron · Aug 30, 2012

Agree with the above points; I think that your lighting setups are needlessly complicated. Your background light doesn't seem to so much separate the model from the background as it does draw the eye from the model to the background, and in both images, I think, as mentioned, a portrait orientation and closer shooting position would have helped. You've got some great styling and MU going on!

spacefuzz · Aug 30, 2012

lighting wise my only gripe would be with the shadow on her nose, wish that was much much softer. Composition wise its like you have two images, a landscape showing depth and a scene in the background and a model in front of some rock. If I was to shoot here (because its an awesome location youve found) I would have the model turn around and be peeking around the edge of the cliff. That shows the model, but provides a bridge linking the person to the landscape. If you just wanted to focus on the model I would have shot tighter and just played up the rock as background texture.

amolitor · Aug 30, 2012

Yep, you're overlighting the background and underlighting the model again

This is the same girl as this thread: http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/...high-fashion-zebra-thoughts-opinions-c-c.html

Jared took a quite different approach.

I like this photograph quite a bit more than your other one, though. You've got a nice diptych feeling with the model and the landscape.

I think she'd benefit from more dramatic lighting, but that's going to introduce a major problem with the landscape -- the light's going to feel completely unnatural in the natural setup. For studio shots, we're used to, we expect, a wild array of lights and strobes basically hosing the model down with photons. Out in the Real World you want to be more subtle. You should be thinking about softened light with warming gels, so it looks like sunlight only better. You want to be thinking of single key lights positioned to be credible as a "sun" (so not conflicting too much with the lighting we see on the landscape, but you can conflict... a bit.. right up to the point where it stops working

You want to be thinking of filling shadows subtly with gold reflectors, or quite low powered softened gelled strobes, again going for that warm sunny look, but without looking like a second light source -- you want the whole thing to "sell" as "this is lit by the sun"

DiskoJoe · Aug 30, 2012

Yeah turn camera 90 degrees.

churchofgnar · Aug 31, 2012

I did manage to get a couple shots turned 90 degrees then got the idea to get the sky in with everything else . I remember seeing some of joe mcnallys stuff like that and always thought it was cool. Here is another picture for you that you might like more .

tirediron · Aug 31, 2012

Yep, like it a LOT more; bring up her skin 1/3 - 1/2 stop and you've got the winner.

amolitor · Aug 31, 2012

I like this one better too, but the lighting is borderline weird again. There's this powerful light that's from behind and upper right, illuminating her head from behind, part of her hair, and her arm. It's not completely improbable, I can see that it might be sunlight coming in from somewhere, but it throws the thing off for me a bit since it doesn't seem to be lighting anything ELSE, and I'd expect stronger shadows with that much sunlight in play.

churchofgnar · Aug 31, 2012

Ha , I got the idea for this from another photographer I think is pretty cool . some of his stuff . Photography and Art by H. James Hoff | Fashion
I'll think the next shoot out a little more next time . It was my first real shoot .its was fun as I learned alot but i was nervous and did stuff I thought would be cool but i didnt really apply at all , ha . Thanks alot for the help guys .