I have had some bargains off ebay, here in the UK. Best bargain was approx. 2 months back - a Minolta Dynax 9 with VC 9 grip for £170. Dealers in the UK are asking about £160 for the grip alone. 9 + grip at dealers - £350-400. If you scour the listings and read carefully you will find the right bargains. This week received a Yashica FR1 for £10. - ISO dial stuck at ASA/ISO of 80, but I can use the camera with a hand meter, set the speed and aperture as per the hand meter, and ignore the readings in the viewfinder. Away I go - a happy shooter.!! And apparently the FR1 was the Yashica equivalent to the Contax RTS. It is built like one, too. Best of luck, Ballistics, the bargains are out there.