Canon Vs. Nikon?

[asfixiate]

As far as Linux... Id go nothing but linux if it had the support that Mac and Windows OS had. /shrug


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YOu hit the nail right on the head as far as I'm concerned. IN college I tutored Graphic art students who used MAC. I had never used macs before but was able to show them what to do.

This was me though and I had 11+ years professionally at the time with computers/programming/analyst.

Mac are supposed to be easier than windows as well as linux is more stable. Get any of the mass public using them and if their only exposure was windows before they'd be like Owen Wilson and Ben Stiller in Zoolander.

At this point anything is better than Vista!!! I'm thinking of switching to Mac since XP is the last windows product I'd ever buy.

 

[Nacho]

All this talking about shooting, I couldn't help but think of the "other" kind of shooting. Rifle scopes.
Nikon makes them, and every guy I know that has them thinks they are great, looked through a few myself and was impressed.
Canon does not make rifle scopes.
This can be taken several ways.
A scope on a rifle sucking up the jolt from shooting a 3000 ft-lbf muzzle blast of energy out of a 300 WinMag rifle HAS to be tough. They have to maintain their zero's, and stay completely rigid shot after shot, so that attests to the durability of Nikon, and how strong they can make optics.
HOWEVER...
Maybe since Canon isn't into rifle scopes and other hunting optics (other than binocs,) they can focus more on the camera side. They can focus more funds to camera development instead of rifle scopes, which is a world different than photography. Rifle scopes absolutely need to be rugged and durable, take a beating, be dropped, etc etc. But then, how much of Nikon's R&D and knowledge of rifle scopes goes into their cameras?? Unknown!

I personally will be buying a Nikon soon, just due to what they produce. No brand loyalty, just thinking a Nikon might hold up better to what I want to do out here in the mountains of Nevada. To me Canon has always just been cameras, nobody I know has a set of Canon binoc's. Always Leupold, Nikon, Swarovski, and Zeiss on all the rifles I see that are worthy of shooting any bullet at anything. A scoped rifle is only as good as its scope.
I am sticking with the Leupold on my 300 WinMag since it is beautiful no matter how I look at it, I just wish Leupold made cameras!
If you get a chance, look through a Leupold spotting scope and you will totally agree with me. :mrgreen:

 

[Dutchboy]

Come on guys, the computer talk is defusing the Canon vs. Nikon debate...still hoping a brawl will break out...!

 

[Antithesis]

If I were a sports photographer, I'd use Canon. If I were a Photojournalist, I'd shoot Nikon. Actually, if I were anything but a sports photographer, I'd shoot Nikon. I think I just have a fixation with it, because a lot of my favorite National Geographic photographers shoot Nikon, my dad shot Nikon, my Grandpa shot Nikon, my friends shoot Nikon, etc.

 

[Iron Flatline]

Any photographer worth his salt shoots Leica, everything else is for kiddies.

Leica makes the best binoculars in the world.

Hunting is not a sport, it's murdering animals by boys with masculinity issues.

Macs are the Information Super-Highway equivalent of a Toyota Corolla with automatic transmission.

Nikon will become irrelevant when Sony decides to stop selling them sensors.

Canon is a copier company.

dSLRs are over-sized, over-featured, and over-marketed. Real photographers use Rangefinders.

Digital is the only true way to shoot at this point, film is for people who lack the skill to move forward in life.

Right.... did I leave anything out?

 

[uplander]

I am a big guy, and I have huge hands, and I wish my cameras were even smaller than my current gear. It depends on what you shoot, it's why I use Rangefinders normally. They're the size of a big P&S. I like shooting people, and if you point one of those mega-SLRs with some kind of monster lens with many bells and whistles at them, you'll never get the shot.

Not every car needs to be an Escalade or Excursion, not every camera needs to be a Canon 1D. The notion that your hands are SOOO huge that you need a battery grip is kinda unlikely.

Think about what you really want to shoot.

Personally, I really want to get back to using SLRs for some work, but I just can't get myself to buy a 1D - it's humongous. I hope the 5D follow-up will be as small as the current model, maybe even smaller. I really am interested in weather-sealing. I am waiting for the new Leica SLR as well, but I just don't think it will be what I need....

Anyway, to get back to my point: think about what you need. All the big brands make something that fits many needs - don't worry about the brand first, worry about what you're shooting.

Actually I find the opposite, I get my best candid shots with my Canon 100- 400 L. That ability to be way off in the distance and zoom in on head shots while the subject doesn't even realize he is having his pictaken is a big plus for me.
Here are a few examples

 

[uplander]

All this talking about shooting, I couldn't help but think of the "other" kind of shooting. Rifle scopes.
Nikon makes them, and every guy I know that has them thinks they are great, looked through a few myself and was impressed.
Canon does not make rifle scopes.
This can be taken several ways.
A scope on a rifle sucking up the jolt from shooting a 3000 ft-lbf muzzle blast of energy out of a 300 WinMag rifle HAS to be tough. They have to maintain their zero's, and stay completely rigid shot after shot, so that attests to the durability of Nikon, and how strong they can make optics.
HOWEVER...
Maybe since Canon isn't into rifle scopes and other hunting optics (other than binocs,) they can focus more on the camera side. They can focus more funds to camera development instead of rifle scopes, which is a world different than photography. Rifle scopes absolutely need to be rugged and durable, take a beating, be dropped, etc etc. But then, how much of Nikon's R&D and knowledge of rifle scopes goes into their cameras?? Unknown!

I personally will be buying a Nikon soon, just due to what they produce. No brand loyalty, just thinking a Nikon might hold up better to what I want to do out here in the mountains of Nevada. To me Canon has always just been cameras, nobody I know has a set of Canon binoc's. Always Leupold, Nikon, Swarovski, and Zeiss on all the rifles I see that are worthy of shooting any bullet at anything. A scoped rifle is only as good as its scope.
I am sticking with the Leupold on my 300 WinMag since it is beautiful no matter how I look at it, I just wish Leupold made cameras!
If you get a chance, look through a Leupold spotting scope and you will totally agree with me. :mrgreen:

Put a Nikon rifle scope or a Zeiss or a Leupold on a spring piston air gun and I guarranty they all will fail in less than 150 shots because air guns recoil reverse of firearms and cant take the backwards stress. So once again your comparing apples to oranges.

BTW when compareing Nikon rifle scpoes to Zeiss , Swarovski and a half a dozen others, the Nikon is the bottom feeder. Trust me on this , you don't want to get into a pissing match on this

 

[uplander]

Any photographer worth his salt shoots Leica, everything else is for kiddies.

Leica makes the best binoculars in the world.

Hunting is not a sport, it's murdering animals by boys with masculinity issues.

Macs are the Information Super-Highway equivalent of a Toyota Corolla with automatic transmission.

Nikon will become irrelevant when Sony decides to stop selling them sensors.

Canon is a copier company.

dSLRs are over-sized, over-featured, and over-marketed. Real photographers use Rangefinders.

Digital is the only true way to shoot at this point, film is for people who lack the skill to move forward in life.

Right.... did I leave anything out?

There we go.....Flame on!!

 

[Antithesis]

There we go.....Flame on!!

Yeah, holy smokes. Iron knows how to stir up a mess, lol.

Leicas are for dentists that like to take pictures of homeless people! Just kidding, I just can't afford one. Although, I almost inherited one from my dead grandfather, but apparently his Leica and Hassy got sold in a garage sale :cringe:

 

[usayit]

Wasnt really nit picking as people still believe that "Mac" and "PC's" really are 2 completely different things, instead of realizing the only difference is software.

So much of the content of your post is just plain wrong..... but to continue would be off-topic of this forum and thread. I've been in both software and hardware (two jobs) for about as long as you have..... Hardware does matter thus different... (The entire design of both Mac hardware and the OS itself is closer to unix servers than PC hardware.) Software does matter thus different. Mac is BSD and can be just a stable as BSD which is a hell of a lot than you can say for our Windows servers.

 

[usayit]

Iron, you forgot one...

Windows is the McDonalds of Information Super-Highway. Their users don't know any better and they are everywhere.

 

[usayit]

Actually I find the opposite, I get my best candid shots with my Canon 100- 400 L. That ability to be way off in the distance and zoom in on head shots while the subject doesn't even realize he is having his pictaken is a big plus for me.

Thats the problem... that is exactly how all the photos come out... distant.. the lack of intimacy.. they tend to be flat.... Try using the same focal length for "story-telling" rather than just "subject". There are times for a large Escalade and there are times that it just doesn't work.

Focal length isn't just to bring things closer... it is the photographer's paint brush.

 

[usayit]

wooahh... more fuel for the Nikonians...

The local camera shop I visit often has reported to me quite a few Canon Professional photographers trading in for Nikon.. more specifically the D3. Many of those same photographers went the opposite direction several years ago when Canon was pushing the front lines of photo-technology.

Why?

The flagship Canon has the 21mp sensor as their selling point
The flagship Nikon has high ISO performance as their selling point.

Many wedding photographers have now reached the point that megapixel count is no longer an issue for their work... thus the high megapixel sensor is no longer the strong seller as it used to be. Not as strong as high ISO performance.

Honestly.. its about time they start focusing on something else.

 

[Iron Flatline]

Leicas are for dentists that like to take pictures of homeless people!

Brilliant! THAT will be my new sig file at the Leica Owners Forum

Windows is the McDonalds of Information Super-Highway. Their users don't know any better and they are everywhere.

Yes, point well taken, I stand corrected.

Also, over lunch my supportive wife pointed out that I could have ratcheted up the vitriol a little by comparing the Mac to a Prius - a slow automatic for nervous drivers, but with self-righteousness pre-installed.

 

[Nacho]

Put a Nikon rifle scope or a Zeiss or a Leupold on a spring piston air gun and I guarranty they all will fail in less than 150 shots because air guns recoil reverse of firearms and cant take the backwards stress. So once again your comparing apples to oranges.

I already know that about the reverse recoil. But hey, apples and oranges are both fruit. I like oranges better myself, even the peel as long as ya don't chew on it too long, then it tastes nasty.