Changing color of a background.

Bitter Jeweler · Jun 5, 2012

Perlygates said:
Bitter Jeweler said:

Even with a green screen, you will have a hard time. You have to control color casts, and reflection of the background.

I still say swapping the background would be the easiest if you set it up right.
Work smarter, not harder.

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I see your point and thank you for your perspective. Other folks here probably wouldn't agree with this perspective and I understand why: a picture of jewelry that's decent is important to catch the viewers eye and show quality of work. but it is going on Etsy, and not in an ad in a good magazine.

I disagree.

Why not quality photos on Etsy?
To me that speaks of the work being sold on Etsy isn't quality either, so why bother.

The images are your only sales tool, really. Should they be the best you can possibly do?
Shooting jewelery is difficult, but once you get it down, it's easy.

Perlygates · Jun 5, 2012

Bitter Jeweler said:
I disagree.

Why not quality photos on Etsy?
To me that speaks of the work being sold on Etsy isn't quality either, so why bother.

The images are your only sales tool, really. Should they be the best you can possibly do?
Shooting jewelery is difficult, but once you get it down, it's easy.

I don't think we disagree all that much here...of course the quality should be as good as I can make it...without question. I was just trying to make the pictures easier to do...not harder! Any more suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.

Bitter Jeweler · Jun 5, 2012

Post a few samples, and we might be able to help more.

Perlygates · Jun 5, 2012

Bitter Jeweler said:
Post a few samples, and we might be able to help more.

Thanks for your offer..I will do that after I get a few shots that are passable. have not started yet) I am appreciative of the assistance. btw....why 'bitter'?

Bitter Jeweler · Jun 5, 2012

Why Bitter?

I was given that nick name YEARS ago, because I complained about everybody I ever worked for, because I knew what I was doing, and never given credit. "They" always knew better. So, it stuck.

But now, I have my own business, I am the boss, and I have to beat customers away with a stick. :sexywink:

Now I am bitter because I work 70-90 hours a week!
(be careful what you wish for I guess :lol:

)

KmH · Jun 5, 2012

Perlygates said:
I was just trying to make the pictures easier to do...not harder!

"Even the easy things are tough to do, if you do them halfassed"

Perlygates · Jun 6, 2012

KmH said:
"Even the easy things are tough to do, if you do them halfassed"

just to clarify.... I don't do any artwork halfassed. ( cleaning the kitchen perhaps, but not artwork) my suggestion to you is to encourage people rather than quote something like that.

Perlygates · Jun 6, 2012

Bitter Jeweler said:
Why Bitter?

I was given that nick name YEARS ago, because I complained about everybody I ever worked for, because I knew what I was doing, and never given credit. "They" always knew better. So, it stuck.

But now, I have my own business, I am the boss, and I have to beat customers away with a stick.
Now I am bitter because I work 70-90 hours a week!
(be careful what you wish for I guess )

great answer. I forgot what it's like to be so popular! so what kind of photo work do you do?

2WheelPhoto · Jun 6, 2012

perhaps change the gel color on the background light

Perlygates · Jun 6, 2012

2WheelPhoto said:
perhaps change the gel color on the background light

that's something I will experiment with... thanks for your idea. The other thing I thought of was layering the photos.

Bitter Jeweler · Jun 6, 2012

Perlygates said:
Bitter Jeweler said:

Why Bitter?

I was given that nick name YEARS ago, because I complained about everybody I ever worked for, because I knew what I was doing, and never given credit. "They" always knew better. So, it stuck.

But now, I have my own business, I am the boss, and I have to beat customers away with a stick.
Now I am bitter because I work 70-90 hours a week!
(be careful what you wish for I guess )

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great answer. I forgot what it's like to be so popular! so what kind of photo work do you do?

A little of this, a little of that.

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/general-gallery/260145-recent-products.html

Flickr: Bitter Jeweler's Photostream

webrotate360 · Jun 6, 2012

With jewelry I think you pretty much have to do all the background changes in the post with masks, etc. Folks are doing incredible things with colored foil, black boards, LED lights, etc, all to make it look good an shine in a natural way - any attempt to blow out background during shoot will likely produce some mediocre results, ... and green screens will probably produce some green jewelry

As somebody noticed already and considering Etsy, shooting jewelry on some artistic background that you will keep on the final images is a way to go in my opinion.

Perlygates · Jun 6, 2012

Kerbouchard said:
Seriously? Yes. You do it by using a green screen for the background.

As far as you editing on an Ipad, I won't even bother to comment.

Actually, on second thought, I will. If your statement that, "Lol....I have some incredible editing apps and the variety of possible ways to edit are amazing" were true, you wouldn't be asking this question.

In reality, as long as your background isn't the same color as your subject, you could easily use the selective color adjustment in Photoshop to change it to whatever you want. If the background isn't different enough, than it is just a matter of creating a layer mask and adjusting the mask separately.

For a product shoot that you have full control over the lighting, background, and subject placement, this should be very simple. You deciding to use an Ipad is what makes it difficult.

ok.... that all makes sense to me. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question.

Perlygates · Jun 6, 2012

Bitter Jeweler said:
A little of this, a little of that.

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/general-gallery/260145-recent-products.html

Flickr: Bitter Jeweler's Photostream

Your jewelry is simply gorgeous, and photos perfect. My jewelry is of a different ilk- and is in the $16 to $90 range. I learned metalsmithing in college but didn't stay with it as I moved into other media. Thanks for showing me.

Perlygates · Jun 6, 2012

webrotate360 said:
With jewelry I think you pretty much have to do all the background changes in the post with masks, etc. Folks are doing incredible things with colored foil, black boards, LED lights, etc, all to make it look good an shine in a natural way - any attempt to blow out background during shoot will likely produce some mediocre results, ... and green screens will probably produce some green jewelry

As somebody noticed already and considering Etsy, shooting jewelry on some artistic background that you will keep on the final images is a way to go in my opinion.

Yes, I think what you say is valuable. Luckily I love to experiment (and break some rules along the way) I'm just catching up to the digital age and really enjoying the possibilities. Thanks for your input.