Changing color of a background.

[Perlygates]

An anyone make a suggestion of how to change the background color of jewelry I will be shooting? I edit on my iPad and do not wish to make a mask. Is there a way to make a background that seems to disappear that I can then edit into a different color? Thanks for any ideas!

 

[Espike]

Not sure if there is an app for that -P), but using a green screen would be easiest I think.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Depends.
Depends how it was shot.
Depends how it was lit.

But, good god!
Editing on an iPad?
Fuhgetaboutit!

 

[Robin Usagani]

Even on regular computer, it would be hard. The sparkles will mess up everything. If the background is red, then I expect the sparkle be reddish too.

 

[Perlygates]

Depends.
Depends how it was shot.
Depends how it was lit.

But, good god!
Editing on an iPad?
Fuhgetaboutit!

Lol....I have some incredible editing apps and the variety of possible ways to edit are amazing. I have a desktop too but this set up is really great.

 

[Perlygates]

Not sure if there is an app for that -P), but using a green screen would be easiest I think.

I was wondering if there was something equivalent to a green screen in still photography...sound like there is?

 

[Perlygates]

Even on regular computer, it would be hard. The sparkles will mess up everything. If the background is red, then I expect the sparkle be reddish too.

Well I figured it wouldn't be easy, but if I can figure it out it would save me a lot of time given that I will be photographing many pieces of jewelry to put for online sales. (I though if I could shoot them similarly then just change the background it would be faster in the long run. However, I may be dreaming!)

 

[Kerbouchard]

Not sure if there is an app for that -P), but using a green screen would be easiest I think.

I was wondering if there was something equivalent to a green screen in still photography...sound like there is?

Seriously? Yes. You do it by using a green screen for the background.

As far as you editing on an Ipad, I won't even bother to comment.

Actually, on second thought, I will. If your statement that, "Lol....I have some incredible editing apps and the variety of possible ways to edit are amazing" were true, you wouldn't be asking this question.

In reality, as long as your background isn't the same color as your subject, you could easily use the selective color adjustment in Photoshop to change it to whatever you want. If the background isn't different enough, than it is just a matter of creating a layer mask and adjusting the mask separately.

For a product shoot that you have full control over the lighting, background, and subject placement, this should be very simple. You deciding to use an Ipad is what makes it difficult.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Even with a green screen, you will have a hard time. You have to control color casts, and reflection of the background.

I still say swapping the background would be the easiest if you set it up right.
Work smarter, not harder.

 

[tirediron]

To add on to Bitter's advice about working smarter, why swap the background? By a proper light tent, lights, etc, and set up the scene, background and all inside the tent and shoot it. Done correctly the editing should be so minimal that it could be done properly on an iPad.

The impression I get Perlygates is that you have a vision, but little idea of how to execute it. There's a lot more to doing this well then shooting on a chroma-key background and making a few finger-swipes on your tablet. If that's all you're prepared to do, shoot the images with your iPhone and call it day.

Shooting jewellery well requires a lot of skill, knowlege and equipment. If you want to learn how to do this properly, you're going to have to learn a whole bunch of basics first; you're going to need to understand how light reflects, terms such as 'inverse square law' and 'incidence of reflection'. There's absolutely no reason you can't do this, but it's not going to happen in a day or two.

 

[KmH]

Please do not cross post in multiple forums, per TPF FAQs. - Photography Forum & Digital Photography Forum FAQ

Your other, virtually identical thread has been closed.

 

[Perlygates]

Seriously? Yes. You do it by using a green screen for the background.

As far as you editing on an Ipad, I won't even bother to comment.

Actually, on second thought, I will. If your statement that, "Lol....I have some incredible editing apps and the variety of possible ways to edit are amazing" were true, you wouldn't be asking this question.

In reality, as long as your background isn't the same color as your subject, you could easily use the selective color adjustment in Photoshop to change it to whatever you want. If the background isn't different enough, than it is just a matter of creating a layer mask and adjusting the mask separately.

For a product shoot that you have full control over the lighting, background, and subject placement, this should be very simple. You deciding to use an Ipad is what makes it difficult.

ok thanks... I hear the consensus and will go back to my desktop...... and follow other helpful suggestions too. I have more experience in a darkroom than digital, but there's no reason why I can't catch up. I've just joined this forum so getting the drift of the perspective of folks here.

 

[Perlygates]

Even with a green screen, you will have a hard time. You have to control color casts, and reflection of the background.

I still say swapping the background would be the easiest if you set it up right.
Work smarter, not harder.

I see your point and thank you for your perspective. Other folks here probably wouldn't agree with this perspective and I understand why: a picture of jewelry that's decent is important to catch the viewers eye and show quality of work. but it is going on Etsy, and not in an ad in a good magazine.

 

[Robin Usagani]

if it is only going to an etsy, why do you need to change the background?

 

[Perlygates]

To add on to Bitter's advice about working smarter, why swap the background? By a proper light tent, lights, etc, and set up the scene, background and all inside the tent and shoot it. Done correctly the editing should be so minimal that it could be done properly on an iPad.

The impression I get Perlygates is that you have a vision, but little idea of how to execute it. There's a lot more to doing this well then shooting on a chroma-key background and making a few finger-swipes on your tablet. If that's all you're prepared to do, shoot the images with your iPhone and call it day.

Shooting jewellery well requires a lot of skill, knowlege and equipment. If you want to learn how to do this properly, you're going to have to learn a whole bunch of basics first; you're going to need to understand how light reflects, terms such as 'inverse square law' and 'incidence of reflection'. There's absolutely no reason you can't do this, but it's not going to happen in a day or two.

I appreciate your perspective. (but no. I won't be using my iPhone!) I'm clear about what a good final shot looks like and will adjust my thinking on how to get there. thanks for your help.