Stosh
TPF Noob!
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I thought I understood this concept, but it's becoming apparent I don't. I use Windows Photo Viewer (with Windows 7) to leaf through my photos, then when I decide what I'd like to work on, I pull it in to Picture Window Pro 5 to edit them. Most on here are probably not familiar with Picture Window Pro, but that shouldn't matter. I started with it because of its price and support for stacking astronomy pics many, many years ago when no other affordable software would stack images.
OK, so I shoot with a 5Dm2, use Canon's own Digital Photo Professional to change basic exposures, color balance, noise reduction, etc., then I'll pull the jpg into PWP5 to do more work on it. PWP5 supports color managament. Here are the different settings and I've bolded those that I think I should use:
Color Management: (enabled, disabled)
Color Engine: (Windows Default, LCMS)
Working Color Space: (a whole bunch of options including Chrome 2000 D50, SRGB IEC61966-2.1, and a color profile done by Spyder 2 Pro for my monitor)
Assumed File Profile: (a whole bunch of options including Chrome 2000 D50, SRGB IEC61966-2.1, and a color profile done by Spyder 2 Pro for my monitor)
On Profile Mismatch: (always ask, ask on mismatch only, convert, don't convert)
Assumed Scanner Profile: (None) - I don't have one
Monitor Profile: (a whole bunch of options including Chrome 2000 D50, SRGB IEC61966-2.1, and a color profile done by Spyder 2 Pro for my monitor)
Monitor Rendering Intent: (Maintain Full Gamut, lots of other options on what to maintain first)
Proofing Profile: (a whole bunch of options including Chrome 2000 D50, SRGB IEC61966-2.1, and a color profile done by Spyder 2 Pro for my monitor)
Proofing Rendering Intent: (Maintain Full Gamut, lots of other options on what to maintain first)
Monitor Proofing Rendering Intent: (Maintain Full Gamut, lots of other options on what to maintain first)
OK, so if I have everything above correct (which I believe to be), Windows Photo Viewer and Picture Window Pro 5 do NOT show the exact same image. The only difference I can see is the extremely dim areas of the pics. Anything in the darkest of shadows when viewed in Windows Photo Viewer becomes pure black when brought into PWP5. It's a small difference, but important to me. I make the dim shadows a certain way so they can be just barely seen, then suddenly they're pure black. No good.
Is Windows Photo Viewer not following the rules correctly, PSP5 not following the rules correctly, or am I doing something wrong?
As I was typing this I checked out the way pics look in Digital Photo Prefessional and guess what? They're different again! All 3 programs show the shoadows differently! And yes, I have DPP's working space set as sRGB and the monitor profile from Spyder2 is selected. What's going on here?
OK, so I shoot with a 5Dm2, use Canon's own Digital Photo Professional to change basic exposures, color balance, noise reduction, etc., then I'll pull the jpg into PWP5 to do more work on it. PWP5 supports color managament. Here are the different settings and I've bolded those that I think I should use:
Color Management: (enabled, disabled)
Color Engine: (Windows Default, LCMS)
Working Color Space: (a whole bunch of options including Chrome 2000 D50, SRGB IEC61966-2.1, and a color profile done by Spyder 2 Pro for my monitor)
Assumed File Profile: (a whole bunch of options including Chrome 2000 D50, SRGB IEC61966-2.1, and a color profile done by Spyder 2 Pro for my monitor)
On Profile Mismatch: (always ask, ask on mismatch only, convert, don't convert)
Assumed Scanner Profile: (None) - I don't have one
Monitor Profile: (a whole bunch of options including Chrome 2000 D50, SRGB IEC61966-2.1, and a color profile done by Spyder 2 Pro for my monitor)
Monitor Rendering Intent: (Maintain Full Gamut, lots of other options on what to maintain first)
Proofing Profile: (a whole bunch of options including Chrome 2000 D50, SRGB IEC61966-2.1, and a color profile done by Spyder 2 Pro for my monitor)
Proofing Rendering Intent: (Maintain Full Gamut, lots of other options on what to maintain first)
Monitor Proofing Rendering Intent: (Maintain Full Gamut, lots of other options on what to maintain first)
OK, so if I have everything above correct (which I believe to be), Windows Photo Viewer and Picture Window Pro 5 do NOT show the exact same image. The only difference I can see is the extremely dim areas of the pics. Anything in the darkest of shadows when viewed in Windows Photo Viewer becomes pure black when brought into PWP5. It's a small difference, but important to me. I make the dim shadows a certain way so they can be just barely seen, then suddenly they're pure black. No good.
Is Windows Photo Viewer not following the rules correctly, PSP5 not following the rules correctly, or am I doing something wrong?
As I was typing this I checked out the way pics look in Digital Photo Prefessional and guess what? They're different again! All 3 programs show the shoadows differently! And yes, I have DPP's working space set as sRGB and the monitor profile from Spyder2 is selected. What's going on here?