Concert shooting ettiquete

[lyonsroar]

So I went to a RUSH concert last night, like usual I brought my camera with me. Everyone else brings their P&S so I did too. All of the signs said "No Professional Cameras" or "No Cameras with interchangeable lenses." My Canon is most certainly NOT a professional camera, nor can I switch lenses.

I got the camera out before the show started to get a feel for the lighting. The show started and I started shooting. We had decent seats so I was shooting a lot. Sure enough, halfway through the first set the crowd control guy pulls me over and tells me that one of RUSH's security had told him to come grab me. :thumbdown: He didn't make me delete the pictures or leave, just told me to put it away. I did so. It was a great show and I didn't want to leave. I tucked it back into my pocket and enjoyed the rest of the show, meanwhile, the lady next to me proceeded to VIDEOTAPE the ENTIRE second set...

So my questions are:

Does "No Professional Cameras" really mean "No Cameras at all?"
--Many people had their P&S's out and shooting with flash and all throughout the whole show.--

I look forward to PP'ing the 60 pics I got before I was caught and posting them here!

 

[peanut170]

I think it means whatever you can get away with. And you were just one of the unlucky ones.

 

[tirediron]

Pretty much ^^ Most promotional groups know that with the proliferation of small cameras, cellular cameras, and so on, stopping photography is an impossible task. They'll do what they can to minimize it, but terms like "professional cameras" really mean whatever the company wants it to mean.

They can't make you delete your images or confiscate your equipment. The only thing they can do is ask you to stop shooting and/or ask you to leave.

 

[lyonsroar]

Pretty much ^^ Most promotional groups know that with the proliferation of small cameras, cellular cameras, and so on, stopping photography is an impossible task. They'll do what they can to minimize it, but terms like "professional cameras" really mean whatever the company wants it to mean.

They can't make you delete your images or confiscate your equipment. The only thing they can do is ask you to stop shooting and/or ask you to leave.

Well that's good to know because he actually said "I'm not going to make you delete your pictures."
:meh:

 

[Alan92RTTT]

A few months ago My wife and I went to a Tim McGraw Concert. I took My Canon IS S2. I even checked with security at the on my way it to make sure it was ok.

I was shooting all night long.

Tim McGraw, Lady Antebellum and Love & Theft

 

[cardinals1970]

Took my kids to a WWE Wrestling event a couple months ago, while not a concert they have the same policy's about use of camera. What they were doing was actually checking the cameras out at a security check point before entering the building. I was told nothing with a lens over 3inches long and basically no DSLR cameras what so ever.

 

[Village Idiot]

Pretty much ^^ Most promotional groups know that with the proliferation of small cameras, cellular cameras, and so on, stopping photography is an impossible task. They'll do what they can to minimize it, but terms like "professional cameras" really mean whatever the company wants it to mean.

They can't make you delete your images or confiscate your equipment. The only thing they can do is ask you to stop shooting and/or ask you to leave.

Well that's good to know because he actually said "I'm not going to make you delete your pictures."
:meh:

He couldn't make you delete the photos. He could call a cop and the cop could show up and they couldn't make you delete the photos.

 

[lyonsroar]

Pretty much ^^ Most promotional groups know that with the proliferation of small cameras, cellular cameras, and so on, stopping photography is an impossible task. They'll do what they can to minimize it, but terms like "professional cameras" really mean whatever the company wants it to mean.

They can't make you delete your images or confiscate your equipment. The only thing they can do is ask you to stop shooting and/or ask you to leave.

Well that's good to know because he actually said "I'm not going to make you delete your pictures."
:meh:

He couldn't make you delete the photos. He could call a cop and the cop could show up and they couldn't make you delete the photos.

More good info. They ALWAYS have cops at this venue.

 

[DerekSalem]

I've gotten stopped a few times here in Cleveland. The Quicken Loans Arena (Cavs, Gladiators, Monsters, etc...) has a "6 inch lens or other professional equipment" policy...unfortunately my telephoto lens is 6.5 inches. I've tried to get it in a few times but they almost always say no. I've even tried using the military ID as a pass lol

Then again there's Progressive Field (Indians) that doesn't care at all as long as it's not affecting the people around you.

 

[lyonsroar]

I've gotten stopped a few times here in Cleveland. The Quicken Loans Arena (Cavs, Gladiators, Monsters, etc...) has a "6 inch lens or other professional equipment" policy...unfortunately my telephoto lens is 6.5 inches. I've tried to get it in a few times but they almost always say no. I've even tried using the military ID as a pass lol

Then again there's Progressive Field (Indians) that doesn't care at all as long as it's not affecting the people around you.

See, I can understand stopping someone for an SLR, but my camera is just an upper level P&S... (I say upper level because it has 10x optical zoom, aperture priority, TV, and manual modes)

 

[lyonsroar]

Out of about 60 shots I got maybe 5-6 that were decent keepers. I suppose they aren't technically very good, but keep in mind I was pretty high up and these were with just a P&S camera.

Probably my favorite out of the bunch. It just looks so grungy!
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[lyonsroar]

Out of probably 60 pictures I got maybe 6 that were decent enough to post. They're probably not technically very good, but seeing that they were taken from way high up with 10x zoom on a P&S I'm happy with them!

Probably my favorite of the bunch. It just looks so grungy!

rush1 by Lyonsroar91, on Flickr


rush8 by Lyonsroar91, on Flickr



rush7 by Lyonsroar91, on Flickr



rush5 by Lyonsroar91, on Flickr

 

[j-digg]

So my questions are:

Does "No Professional Cameras" really mean "No Cameras at all?"
--Many people had their P&S's out and shooting with flash and all throughout the whole show.--

I think it really depends on the venue.... The strictest Ive been at that I actually got my gear into was an NBA game which said "No professional cameras" I called up, and spoke to a gentleman who really wasnt photography savvy whatsoever, he said "No pro cameras" I asked him to define it and he said "you know, those big cameras with the big lenses" but I got my XSi with a 55-250 and a 100mm 2.8 L in the game not to mention 2 other lenses... the biggest issue was the backpack they were in.

These also said no professional cameras:

ACDC ( Target Center in Minneapolis ): completely cool, barely seemed to check my bag at all.

MLB game ( Target Field in Minneapolis ): barely checked my bag at all as well

Small venue ( 1st Ave in Minneapolis ): no way I was getting any of my gear in aside from my cell phone lol.

As I said, it just seems to be venue specific.. Ive been pretty lucky/fortunate... If you have any doubts try to contact the venue beforehand to try to clear up any questions.

 

[bentcountershaft]

I think this was a difference between the venue's policy and the band's policy. The venue was ok with p&s, the band isn't ok with cameras at all. I've read Neil Peart in one of his books talk about looking through someone's camera after it was confiscated, wondering why someone would take the risk. Rush is the band that started the three song rule from my understanding so they aren't exactly known for being camera friendly.

 

[lyonsroar]

I think this was a difference between the venue's policy and the band's policy. The venue was ok with p&s, the band isn't ok with cameras at all. I've read Neil Peart in one of his books talk about looking through someone's camera after it was confiscated, wondering why someone would take the risk. Rush is the band that started the three song rule from my understanding so they aren't exactly known for being camera friendly.

Well that's not true because this venue has some concerts where the signs say "No recording devices," but they changed them for this one. Actually, this is the first concert I've been to there that has said "No Professional cameras" vs "No recording devices."

I really feel that the band security and the venue security should be consistent in their policies.