really like nature photos and would very much enjoy making my own, but on a tight budget. not necessarily wildlife although eventually that too. manly right now just landscapes would be nice maybe even night time sky photos (i think astrophotography). would really like to get a camera that i will like from now on. if a camera lasts 50,000 clicks and can get something with less than 10,000, i cannot imagine putting another 40,000 on it. also have been seeing some really nice photos from a canon 450d. they are bigger than my 27 inch monitor. have been looking online and not in town yet. my initial idea was to get a second hand canon 45od body battery and charger around 8000 shutter count with 6 month warranty and looks very clean for $90+. then get either a very good prime lens or a 18-55 canon stm lens for less than $100. then i notice deals for something like a nikon d3100 with one or two vr lenses, bag, and extras for about $200. also deals for something like a canon 550d with a couple kit lenses all in very nice shape for about $250. if i am going to spend $250 then why not a open box nikon 3200 with everything that comes in the box including the two kit lenses and all in pristine condition, i am assuming unused it has a 6 month warranty. thank you for any better ideas.