Crazy photographer's rights story

[vtf]

It smells of a setup.

 

[tirediron]

 

[Sirashley]

Okay, going back to the article I posted earlier

Westhampton News - Woman says trespassing arrest at Air National Guard base was misunderstanding - 27east

On the issue of photography, she did have every right to be there if she truly was on public property, but by the same token, law enforcement had every right to at the very least question her... Upon questioning her, they discovered weapons and ammunition... from there...

She had an assault rifle, a shot gun, and 500 rounds of ammunition in the trunk... I'm sorry, but I completely understand why she was detained.. What if she had been a 40 year old arab male??? Would we be having the same conversation??? The bottom line is, we have to treat everyone equally, and what if she had bad intentions? What if she shot up the airport after being questioned and released without the proper investigation? What would we be saying now?

Lesson learned: If you're going to shoot areas that may be considered sensitive to the Government or guarded heavily against terrorism... It might be wise not to bring high powered artillery with you

 

[GooniesNeverSayDie11]

Okay, going back to the article I posted earlier

Westhampton News - Woman says trespassing arrest at Air National Guard base was misunderstanding - 27east

On the issue of photography, she did have every right to be there if she truly was on public property, but by the same token, law enforcement had every right to at the very least question her... Upon questioning her, they discovered weapons and ammunition... from there...

She had an assault rifle, a shot gun, and 500 rounds of ammunition in the trunk... I'm sorry, but I completely understand why she was detained.. What if she had been a 40 year old arab male??? Would we be having the same conversation??? The bottom line is, we have to treat everyone equally, and what if she had bad intentions? What if she shot up the airport after being questioned and released without the proper investigation? What would we be saying now?

Lesson learned: If you're going to shoot areas that may be considered sensitive to the Government or guarded heavily against terrorism... It might be wise not to bring high powered artillery with you

But she did not break any laws by having said ammunition. You bring up a point about if she was an Arab, yet go on to say that we should treat everyone equally. What we should do is give everyone the rights afforded to them by the constitution. After all, that is what we are defending every time we stop a terrorist. There is also a difference between questioning someone and confiscating their belongings, impounding their vehicle, and interrogating them at length. When I posted this, I stated that a lot of it was probably stretched a little. However, to interrogate someone for 5 hours when they had done nothing illegal is absurd. Its one thing to dig into a persons history, or put them on watch, but to physically detain them and their property for 5 hours should be concerning to any citizen of this country.

 

[Sirashley]

However, to interrogate someone for 5 hours when they had done nothing illegal is absurd. Its one thing to dig into a persons history, or put them on watch, but to physically detain them and their property for 5 hours should be concerning to any citizen of this country.

According to the article, she was arrested for Criminal Trespass... and the article claims she was on their property

“She was basically notified that if she didn’t have official business, she was not allowed on our grounds,' said Major Scott Williams, the wing executive officer and media contact for the Air National Guard’s 106th Rescue Wing.
Major Williams said Ms. Genovese had been spotted once before snooping around on base property, and ANG members had written down her personal information. They were told to notify authorities if she appeared on the base again, he said: “They were keeping an eye out for her.”

So if that aspect is true... she did commit a crime and therefore subject to arrest and impound of property. As for a 5 hour interrogation, that may have been excessive, but how do we justify interrogating a white woman for 15 minutes and an arab man for 5 hours... You can't... therefore there is a process which must be followed that treats everyone with equality

 

[ghpham]

This stupidity happens when people live in fear.

 

[MariClaire]

Honestly, it sounds like no one knows what actually happend in this case. Law enforcement is saying one thing, and her account is saying another. I am sure that somewhere in the middle of both claims is where the truth lies. Certainly, one thing that is agreeable is that she had a right to a lawyer, and decent treatment. Seriously though, what kind of idiot drives around with $13,000 in cash and a rifle in the back?..then you stop at an air port to take pictures? Come on now....

 

[Forkie]

I couldn't believe what I was reading in this article. I cannot believe that she was held for so long without being read her rights, being denied medical treatment and being held for hours without charge.
It doesn't matter if her actions were suspicious - if they were that suspicious she should have been arrested before being held and never treated in that way, regardless. The cops obviously knew she'd done nothing wrong which is why they didn't arrest her.

I don't happen to agree with the "right to arms", but if it is perfectly legal in the US to carry a rifle, a camera and $13,000 in your car, then she did nothing wrong. The police were well within their rights to enquire as to her reason for being there but not to treat her in that way.

 

[tambrico]

I actually work at another airport on Long Island, and I couldn't imagine anyone that works here caring if someone was taking pictures. That said, at some point in time I will drive out to Gabreski with my rifle in my trunk, and take pictures of this thing she was taking pictures of and see what happens.

 

[vtf]

I couldn't believe what I was reading in this article. I cannot believe that she was held for so long without being read her rights, being denied medical treatment and being held for hours without charge.
It doesn't matter if her actions were suspicious - if they were that suspicious she should have been arrested before being held and never treated in that way, regardless. The cops obviously knew she'd done nothing wrong which is why they didn't arrest her.

I don't happen to agree with the "right to arms", but if it is perfectly legal in the US to carry a rifle, a camera and $13,000 in your car, then she did nothing wrong. The police were well within their rights to enquire as to her reason for being there but not to treat her in that way.

She's lucking she's not sitting in Guantanamo Bay. The military takes these things very serious, she was in front of a military installation entrance, not the civil airport .

 

[Forkie]

I couldn't believe what I was reading in this article. I cannot believe that she was held for so long without being read her rights, being denied medical treatment and being held for hours without charge.
It doesn't matter if her actions were suspicious - if they were that suspicious she should have been arrested before being held and never treated in that way, regardless. The cops obviously knew she'd done nothing wrong which is why they didn't arrest her.

I don't happen to agree with the "right to arms", but if it is perfectly legal in the US to carry a rifle, a camera and $13,000 in your car, then she did nothing wrong. The police were well within their rights to enquire as to her reason for being there but not to treat her in that way.

She's lucking she's not sitting in Guantanamo Bay. The military takes these things very serious, she was in front of a military installation entrance, not the civil airport .

It doesn't matter. You can't treat people like that whether they were sitting in front a civil airport, military base or on Area 51's blueprint for the Starship Enterprise. People have civil rights and unless the police could prove she had broken the law in anyway, she should have been released, or if they had to keep her,at the very least been given proper treatment for her injuries and been told how the investigation would proceed.

 

[12sndsgood]

i gues the simple thing to do would have just to see what she was taking pics of. if she did just take a few pics of a helicopter shell out front then there you go. if the fbi was there and saw no reason to keep her and left you'd that that would overrule the cops.

 

[Rekd]

I find it disturbing that this woman was arrested for "criminal trespass" while on a public road. Anyone care to explain how this works?

 

[Rekd]

She's lucking she's not sitting in Guantanamo Bay.

LoL. Are we living in pre-1940's Germany?

/fail/ :lmao:

Can I suggest you lay off the booze until after lunch?

 

[vtf]

I couldn't believe what I was reading in this article. I cannot believe that she was held for so long without being read her rights, being denied medical treatment and being held for hours without charge.
It doesn't matter if her actions were suspicious - if they were that suspicious she should have been arrested before being held and never treated in that way, regardless. The cops obviously knew she'd done nothing wrong which is why they didn't arrest her.

I don't happen to agree with the "right to arms", but if it is perfectly legal in the US to carry a rifle, a camera and $13,000 in your car, then she did nothing wrong. The police were well within their rights to enquire as to her reason for being there but not to treat her in that way.

She's lucking she's not sitting in Guantanamo Bay. The military takes these things very serious, she was in front of a military installation entrance, not the civil airport .

It doesn't matter. You can't treat people like that whether they were sitting in front a civil airport, military base or on Area 51's blueprint for the Starship Enterprise. People have civil rights and unless the police could prove she had broken the law in anyway, she should have been released, or if they had to keep her,at the very least been given proper treatment for her injuries and been told how the investigation would proceed.

The total breakdown of civil liberties among several different agencies seem very unlikely.
All this could've been avoided if she simply wrote to the base commander "Please sir, may I take a few pictures of the nice helicopter at the front of you base for my patriotic website, here's the address. Thank You. In any case I will respect your decision".
Chances are she would've gotten it. And if not, respect it.
And as for Guantanamo bay, we've got enemy combatants (terrorists) there, have been there for years without charges. Not saying its right, just saying.