I want to start off and say I am not exactly "new" to photography, but I have never owned a DSLR in my life. I am looking into getting into mid to close shots of portraits, a bit of landscape, and most importantly close up computer photography. I am not new to buying something thinking that I will limit myself to that, and end up wanting more. I say that I want to perform that type of photography but who knows, down the road I might want to take action and wildlife shots. Now, onto the real question. The D3300 with standard kit lens, wifi adapter, and 32gb memory card is 400$ for Black Friday, which is terrifyingly low considering it once was quite a bit more, but there also is a deal with the standard kit lens, a 55-200mm lens, and wifi adapter for 500$. Now I planned to buy something relatively cheap and buy a 50mm 1.8/G Prime lens so I can save some money, but I thought about the D5300 too, I really like the articulating screen and like I said, I am not new to wanting more, so I am afraid that the articulating screen will be a deal breaker, but it really shouldn't be. ALSO, I do believe the lenses are not VR II, just VR. I don't know anything about that but I know there is a difference. Which would mean that if it were true, maybe getting the cheaper kit and buying the prime lens is the better bet. Do any of you have any other recommendations that are below 650$? I just saw this as an opportunity to pay less and spend the rest of the money on a decent lens. I was looking through Refurbished D5300's for around 530$ with lens, which is in my price point, could this be a good option?