D800?

[slackercruster]

Ofcourse is not all about the sensor. That's why Canon still popular. It's all about the whole package. I was questioning him the need of that long explanation. Nobody is saying something bad about Nikon.

How can Canon have a 21mp FF dslr for $2400 and Nikon D700 is priced higher and has much less MP for the $?

Canon Direct Store- EOS 5D Mark II Body

Wow, your looking at buying a D700? And your asking questions like this?? this is the sort of statement a person with a compact camera makes. Do some reading my friend and learn about photography before buying a D700. You are clearly believing that just because a camera has a higher megapixel count it is BETTER! Which is just plain wrong...

Are you saying the Nikon will out shoot the Canon?

Yes, I am a newbie to dslr's. (Not to film slr's) 40 years ago I used to have all Nikon equipment, then got out of it. And don't diss the compact cams. I've seen some fabulous photos from them.

As I look around now, I see lots of pro's in the outdoors / adventure mags giving credit to the Canon...very little credit goes to Nikon. So that what I was looking at.

I am not interested in all the BS crap they keep loading the cameras up with. Am interested in taking sharp pictures with good contrast and tonality, reliabilty, ease of use and great glass. Nikon seems to have some of the best glass around. But Canon also has good glass.

So what distinguishes these 2 cameras at hand beside the MP between cameras of the same size sensor?

 

[Nikon_Josh]

How can Canon have a 21mp FF dslr for $2400 and Nikon D700 is priced higher and has much less MP for the $?

Canon Direct Store- EOS 5D Mark II Body

Wow, your looking at buying a D700? And your asking questions like this?? this is the sort of statement a person with a compact camera makes. Do some reading my friend and learn about photography before buying a D700. You are clearly believing that just because a camera has a higher megapixel count it is BETTER! Which is just plain wrong...

Are you saying the Nikon will out shoot the Canon?

Yes, I am a newbie to dslr's. (Not to film slr's) 40 years ago I used to have all Nikon equipment, then got out of it. And don't diss the compact cams. I've seen some fabulous photos from them.

As I look around now, I see lots of pro's in the outdoors / adventure mags giving credit to the Canon...very little credit goes to Nikon. So that what I was looking at.

I am not interested in all the BS crap they keep loading the cameras up with. Am interested in taking sharp pictures with good contrast and tonality, reliabilty, ease of use and great glass. Nikon seems to have some of the best glass around. But Canon also has good glass.

So what distinguishes these 2 cameras at hand beside the MP between cameras of the same size sensor?

Between the two cameras in question.. the D700 and the 5D Mark II.

The D700 has the following advantages which justifies the higher price tag in my opinion-

1- Superior Build quality.. the 5D Mark II has questionable build quality.
2- Superior Pro level autofocus system... the 5D2 has a consumer AF system with one cross type AF point which is rather poor to say the least.
3- Wireless flash support in camera.
4- Better dynamic range.. the Canon famously has banding and noise in shadows even at low ISO's... which seems a bit obscene for a full frame camera which costs as much as it does.
5- Slightly Better High ISO performance.

The Canon does win on more resolution though and detail in photos with it's 21MP sensor and has a decent video mode. But I don't think anyone would feel limited by a 12MP sensor.

Compacts can produce decent photos in good light.. no doubt about it. I still can't stand the tiny sensors they use though, dreadful dynamic range and high ISO performance to name a couple of the major issues with compact cameras. Not to mention the fact that everything is always in focus when using a compact, no chance of a shallow DOF for example. Compacts are completely 'limited' cameras in my opinion and frustrate the hell out of me. To the point, that my S90 (which is pretty decent) gets little to no use whatsoever.

 

[IgsEMT]

Compacts can produce decent photos in good light.. no doubt about it. I still can't stand the tiny sensors they use though, dreadful dynamic range and high ISO performance to name a couple of the major issues with compact cameras. Not to mention the fact that everything is always in focus when using a compact, no chance of a shallow DOF for example. Compacts are completely 'limited' cameras in my opinion and frustrate the hell out of me. To the point, that my S90 (which is pretty decent) gets little to no use whatsoever.

At least you have a compact camera I bought Canon G10 or G11, when Circuit City was closing down. Used it for few weeks and sold it: it was a good camera for walking around and snapping away but comfort was with SLRs.

 

[slackercruster]

Thanks Nikon Josh for the rundown.

 

[PDP]

Nikon has now announced the D800.

 

[ph0enix]

• US Price tag: $2,999.95
• Lens Mount
  Nikon F bayonet mount
• Effective Pixels
  36.3 million
• Sensor Size
  35.9mm x 24mm
• Image Sensor Format
  FX
• Image Sensor Type
  CMOS
• Total Pixels
  36.8 million
• Dust-reduction system
  Image sensor cleaning
• Dust-Off Reference Photo
  Yes
• Image Area (pixels)
  FX-format
  (L) 7,360 x 4,912
  (M) 5,520 x 3,680
  (S) 3,680 x 2,456
  1:2 format (30 x 20)
  (L) 6,144 x 4,080
  (M) 4,608 x 3,056
  (S) 3,072 x 2,040
  5:4 format (30 x 24)
  (L) 6,144 x 4,912
  (M) 4,608 x 3,680
  (S) 3,072 x 2,456
  DX-format
  (L) 4,800 x 3,200
  (M) 3,600 x 2,400
  (S) 2,400 x 1,600
• File Format Still Images
  JPEG: JPEG-Baseline Compliant with fine (approx 1:4), Normal (approx 1:8) or Basic (approx 1:16) Compression
  NEF (RAW): lossless compressed 12 or 14 bit, lossless compressed, compressed or uncompressed
  TIFF (RGB)
  JPEG: JPEG-Baseline-Compliant; can be selected from Size Priority and Optimal Quality
• Picture Control
  Landscape
  Monochrome
  Neutral
  Portrait
  Standard
  User-customizable Settings
  Vivid
• Storage Media
  CompactFlash© (CF) (Type I, compliant with UDMA)
  SD
  SDHC
  SDXC
• Card Slot
  1 CompactFlash© (CF) card and 1 Secure Digital (SD) card
• File System
  Compliant with DCF (Design Rule for Camera File System) 2.0
  DPOF (Digital Print Order Format)
  EXIF 2.3 (Exchangeable Image File Format for Digital Still Cameras)
  PictBridge
• Viewfinder
  Eye-level Pentamirror Single-Lens Reflex viewfinder
• Viewfinder Frame Coverage
  FX (36x24): 100% Horizontal and 100% Vertical Approx.
  1.2x (30x20): 97% Horizontal and 97% Vertical Approx.
  DX (24x16): 97% Horizontal and 97% Vertical Approx.
  5:4 (30x24): 97% Horizontal and 97% Vertical Approx.
• Viewfinder Magnification
  0.70x Approx.
• Viewfinder Eyepoint
  19.5 (-1.0¯¹)
• Viewfinder Diopter Adjustment
  Built-in diopter adjustment (-3 to +1 m¯¹)
• Focusing Screen
  Type B BriteView Clear Matte Mark VIII with AF Area Brackets (grid lines can be displayed)
• Reflex Mirror
  Quick-return type
• Lens Aperture
  Instant-return type
• Depth-of-field Control
  Yes
• Lens Compatibility at a Glance***
  AF-S or AF lenses fully compatible
  Metering with AI lenses
• Compatible Lenses
  AF NIKKOR other than type G or D*2: All functions supported except 3D Color Matrix Metering III
  AI-P NIKKOR: All functions supported except autofocus and 3D Color Matrix Metering III
  DX AF NIKKOR: All Functions Supported Except FX-format (36x24)/5:4 (30x24) Image Size
  Non-CPU: Usable in [A] or [M] mode Center-Weighted or Spot Metering; Electronic Rangefinder can be used if Maximum Aperture is f/5.6 or Faster
  Type G or D AF NIKKOR: All Functions Supported
• Shutter type
  Electronically controlled vertical-travel focal-plane
• Shutter Speed
  1/8000 to 30 sec.
  Bulb
• Fastest Shutter Speed
  1/8000 sec.
• Slowest Shutter Speed
  30 sec.
• Flash Sync Speed
  Up to 1/250 sec.
  Synchronizes with shutter at 1/320s or slower (flash range drops at speeds between 1/250 and 1/320s)
• Bulb Shutter Setting
  Yes
• Shutter Release Modes
  Continuous low-speed [CL] mode; 1-4 frames per second
  Continuous high-speed [CH] mode; 4 frames per second
  Mirror-up [Mup] mode
  Quiet Shutter Release
  Self-timer mode
  Single-frame mode
  [*] Continuous Shooting Options
  FX-format
  CH: Up to 4 frames per second
  CL: Up to 4 frames per second
  5:4 format
  CH: Up to 4 frames per second
  CL: Up to 4 frames per second
  DX-format
  CH: Up to 5 frames per second
  CL: Up to 5 frames per second
  1:2 format
  CH: Up to 5 frames per second
  CL: Up to 5 frames per second
  [*] Top Continuous Shooting Speed at full resolution
  4 frames per second
  [*] Self-timer
  2, 5, 10, 20 sec. Timer duration electronically controlled
  [*] Exposure Metering System
  TTL exposure metering using 91,000-pixel RGB sensor
  [*] Metering Method
  Center-weighted: Weight of 75% given to 8mm circle in center of frame
  Matrix: 3D color matrix metering III (type G and D lenses); color matrix metering III (other CPU lenses)
  Spot: Meters 4mm circle (about 1.5% of frame) centered on selected focus point
  [*] Metering Range
  0 to 20 EV (3D color matrix or center-weighted metering)
  0 to 20 EV (spot metering)
  [*] Exposure Meter Coupling
  CPU
  AI
  [*] Exposure Modes
  Aperture-Priority (A)
  Manual (M)
  Programmed auto with flexible program (P)
  Shutter-Priority (S)
  [*] Exposure Compensation
  ±5 EV in increments of 1/3, 1/2 or 1 EV
  [*] Exposure Bracketing
  2 to 9 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3 or 1 EV
  [*] Exposure Lock
  Yes
  [*] Mirror Lock Up
  Yes
  [*] ISO Sensitivity
  ISO 100 - 6400
  Lo-1 (ISO 50)
  Hi-1 (ISO 12,800)
  Hi-2 (ISO 25,600)
  [*] Lowest Standard ISO Sensitivity
  100
  [*] Highest Standard ISO Sensitivity
  6400
  [*] Lowest Expanded ISO Sensitivity
  Lo-1 (ISO 50 equivalent)
  [*] Highest Expanded ISO Sensitivity
  HI-2 (ISO 25,600 equivalent)
  [*] Expanded ISO Sensitivity Options
  Lo-1 (ISO-50 equivalent), Hi-1 (ISO-12,800 equivalent), Hi-2 (ISO-25,600 equivalent)
  [*] Long Exposure Noise Reduction
  Yes
  [*] High ISO Noise Reduction
  Low
  Normal
  High
  Off
  [*] Active D-Lighting
  Auto
  Extra High
  High
  Normal
  Low
  Off
  [*] D-Lighting Bracketing
  2 frames using selected value for one frame
  3–5 frames using preset values for all frames
  [*] Single-point AF Mode
  Yes
  [*] Dynamic AF Mode
  Number of AF points: 9, 21, 51 and 51 (3D-tracking)
  [*] Auto-area AF Mode
  Yes
  [*] Autofocus System
  Nikon Advanced Multi-CAM 3500FX autofocus sensor module with TTL phase detection
  [*] Detection Range
  -1 to 19 EV (ISO 100, 68°F/20°C)
  [*] Lens Servo
  Autofocus (AF): Single-servo AF (AF-S); Continuous-servo AF (AF-C); auto AF-S/AF-C selection (AF-A); predictive focus tracking activated automatically according to subject status
  Manual focus (MF): Electronic rangefinder can be used
  [*] AF-area mode
  9, 21 or 51 point Dynamic-area AF
  Auto-area AF
  Single-point AF
  3D-tracking (51 points)
  [*] Focus Lock
  Focus can be locked by pressing AE-L/AF-L button
  Focus can be locked by pressing shutter-release button halfway (single-servo AF)
  [*] Focus Modes
  Auto AF-S/AF-C selection (AF-A)
  Continuous-servo (AF-C)
  Face-Priority AF available in Live View only and D-Movie only
  Full-time Servo (AF-A) available in Live View only
  Manual (M) with electronic rangefinder
  Normal area
  Single-servo AF (AF-S)
  Wide area
  [*] Maximum Autofocus Areas/Points
  51
  [*] Autofocus Sensitivity
  -2 to +19 EV (ISO 100, 20°C/68°F)
  [*] Autofocus Fine Tune
  Yes
  [*] Built-in Flash
  Yes
  [*] Flash Bracketing
  2 to 9 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, or 1 EV
  [*] Built-in Flash Distance
  39 ft. (ISO 100)
  [*] X-Sync Speed
  1/250
  [*] Top FP High Speed Sync
  Up to 1/8000
  [*] Flash Control
  TTL: i-TTL flash control using 91,000-pixel RGB sensor are available with built-in flash and SB-910, SB-900, SB-700, or SB-400; i-TTL balanced fill-flash for digital SLR is used with matrix and center-weighting metering, standard i-TTL flash for digital SLR with spot metering
  [*] Flash Sync Modes
  Front-curtain sync (normal)
  Rear-curtain sync
  Red-eye reduction
  Red-eye reduction with slow sync
  Slow sync
  [*] Flash Compensation
  -3 to +1 EV in increments of 1/3, 1/2 or 1 EV
  [*] Flash-ready indicator
  Lights when built-in flash or optional flash unit such as SB-910, SB-900, SB-400, SB-80DX, SB-28DX or SB-50DX is fully charged
  [*] Accessory Shoe
  Yes
  [*] Nikon Creative Lighting System (CLS)
  CLS Supported
  [*] Flash Sync Terminal
  Yes
  [*] White Balance
  Auto (2 types)
  Choose color temperature (2500K–10000K)
  Cloudy
  Direct Sunlight
  Flash
  Fluorescent (7 types)
  Incandescent
  Preset manual (up to 4 values can be stored)
  Shade
  [*] White Balance Bracketing
  2 to 9 exposures in increments of 1, 2 or 3 EV
  [*] Live View Shooting
  Photography Live View Mode
  Movie Live View Mode
  [*] Live View Lens servo
  Autofocus (AF): Single-servo AF (AF-S); full-time-servo AF (AF-F)
  Manual focus (MF)
  [*] Live View AF-area mode
  Face-priority AF
  Wide-area AF
  Normal-area AF
  Subject-tracking AF
  [*] Live View Autofocus
  Contrast-detect AF anywhere in frame (camera selects focus point automatically when face-priority AF or subject-tracking AF is selected)
  [*] Movie Metering
  TTL exposure metering using main image sensor
  [*] Movie Frame size (pixels) and frame rate
  1280 x 720 (30p): 30 fps (29.97 fps)
  1280 x 720 (60p): 60 fps (59.94 fps)
  1920 x 1080 (24p): 24 fps (23.976 fps)
  1920 x 1080 (30p): 30 fps (29.97 fps)
  [*] Movie Maximum recording time
  20 minutes at highest quality
  29 minutes 59 seconds at normal quality
  [*] Movie File Format
  MOV
  [*] Movie Video Compression
  H.264/MPEG-4 Advanced Video Coding
  [*] Movie Audio recording format
  Linear PCM
  [*] Movie Audio recording device
  Built-in monaural microphone
  External stereo microphone (optional)
  [*] Movie
  HD 1,920x1,080 / 30 fps
  HD 1,920x1,080 / 24 fps
  HD 1,280x720 / 30 fps
  HD 1,280x720 / 24 fps
  HD 1,280x720 / 60 fps
  [*] Movie Audio
  Built-in microphone, monaural
  External stereo microphone (optional)
  [*] Monitor Size
  3.2 in. diagonal
  [*] Monitor Resolution
  921,000 Dots
  [*] Monitor Type
  Wide Viewing Angle TFT-LCD
  [*] Monitor Angle of View
  170-degree wide-viewing angle
  [*] Monitor Adjustments
  Brightness, 5 levels
  [*] Virtual Horizon Camera Indicator
  Yes
  Also visible in LiveView Modes
  Also visible in Viewfinder
  [*] Playback Functions
  Auto Image Rotation
  Full-Frame and Thumbnail (4, 9, or 72 images or calendar)
  Histogram Display
  Image Comment
  Movie Playback
  Movie Slideshow
  Playback with Zoom
  Slideshow
  Highlights
  [*] In-Camera Image Editing
  Color Outline
  Color Sketch
  D-Lighting
  Distortion Control
  Edit Movie
  Filter Effects
  Fisheye
  Image Overlay
  Miniature Effect
  Monochrome
  NEF (RAW) Processing
  Perspective Control
  Quick Retouch
  Red-eye Correction
  Resize
  Selective Color
  Side-by-Side Comparison
  Straighten
  Trim
  Color Balance
  [*] Image Comment
  Yes
  [*] Interface
  HDMI output: Type C mini-pin HDMI connector
  Headphone Connector
  NTSC
  Stereo Microphone Input
  Super Speed USB 3.0
  [*] Wi-Fi Functionality
  Eye-Fi Compatible
  WT-4A
  [*] GPS
  GP-1 GPS unit
  [*] Save/Load Camera settings
  Yes
  [*] Total custom Settings
  54
  [*] My Menu
  Yes with customization
  [*] Recent Settings
  Yes
  [*] Supported Languages
  Arabic
  Chinese (Simplified and Traditional)
  Czech
  Danish
  Dutch
  English
  Finnish
  French
  German
  Indonesian
  Italian
  Japanese
  Korean
  Norweigan
  Polish
  Portuguese
  Romanian
  Russian
  Spanish
  Swedish
  Thai
  Turkish
  Ukrainian
  [*] Date, Time and Daylight Savings Time Settings
  Yes
  [*] World Time Setting
  Yes
  [*] Battery / Batteries
  EN-EL15 Lithium-ion Battery
  [*] Battery Life (shots per charge)
  900 Battery Life (shots per charge) (CIPA)
  [*] AC Adapter
  EH-5b AC Adapter
  Requires EP-5B Power Supply Connector
  [*] Battery Charger
  MH-25 Quick Charger
  [*] Tripod Socket
  1/4 in. (ISO 1222)
  [*] Approx. Dimensions
  Width 5.7 in. (144.78mm)
  Height 4.8 in. (121.92mm)
  Depth 3.2 in. (81.28mm)
  [*] Approx. Weight
  31.7 oz. (900g)
  camera body only
  [*] Supplied Accessories
  
  • AN-DC6 Strap
  • EN-EL15 Rechargeable Li-ion Battery
  • MH-25 Battery Charger
  • UC-E14 USB Cable
  • BM-12 LCD Monitor Cover
  • BF-1B Body Cap
  • BS-1 Accessory Shoe Cap
  • DK-17 Viewfinder Eyepiece
  • NikonView NX2 CD ROM
  
  
  
  

 

[Aloicious]

yup, looks like the 36mp rumors were right. its a monster...but did anyone notice that they were able to squeeze a pixel pitch LARGER than the D7000 out of it? according to B&H here: Just Out
the pixel pitch of the d800's 36mp sensor is 4.88um...the D7000 is 4.78um...I know that's comparing Dx to Fx, but still, impressive.

it looks like a good studio camera for someone on a budget, I'm sure it doesn't compare to medium formats like a hassy, but for for price it probably performs well, especially on well lit, low ISO, shoots.
I gotta say, I'm intrigued, I'd like to try it out someday, it probably won't be anything I'd purchase since I need high ISO/speed more than I need MP, but it would be nice for the product shooting I do on occasion.

 

[Aloicious]

here's nikon's pages with some sample images...however the highest ISO sample image is 640.

D800 images: http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/sample01.htm

D800E images: http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/sample02.htm

 

[QuadTap]

sorry if this has already been covered but does the d800 replace the d700.. or will there be a "low" megapixel FX to replace the d700. I just flat out don't ever need anything more than about 12MP. Also, will the d700 used prices come down much as a result of the d800 or eventual d700 replacment?

-dreamin d5100 owner

 

[FearNothing321]

sorry if this has already been covered but does the d800 replace the d700.. or will there be a "low" megapixel FX to replace the d700. I just flat out don't ever need anything more than about 12MP. Also, will the d700 used prices come down much as a result of the d800 or eventual d700 replacment?-dreamin d5100 owner

the D800 will replace the D700and yes used D700 prices should drop once this hits the market in March

 

[xyphoto]

So I checked Amazon last night when the announcement was made, there were 12 D700 for sale. There are 19 now. Seems like people are selling their equipment now to get the most money out of D700.

 

[mjhoward]

and yes used D700 prices should drop once this hits the market in March

Don't count on it.

 

[spacefuzz]

Well I ordered one, good excuse to make the jump to full frame. Cant wait to try it out!

 

[2WheelPhoto]

Well I ordered one, good excuse to make the jump to full frame. Cant wait to try it out!

congrats, did you order the filtered or non-filtered flavor?

 

[Trever1t]

me 2... I opted for standard version.