Dealing with reflectors, no assistant, and wind

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  1. Winterson

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    Best to avoid the wind by shooting either very early in the day or very late in the day. I calculated that even with a 30" reflector in 18 knots of wind - and it only takes one gust of that velocity, that I would need about 70 lbs. of sand or water, hardly a portable setup. Yes you could use bungee cords and tent stakes but that is a pretty inflexible setup and not viable in many locations if the surface is too hard or you are on public property where pounding stakes into the ground is frowned upon.

    An alternative in some locations is to use flash and bounce light off a rock or wall or car that serves as a reflector. You end up with a much larger light source by virtue of the bounced flash. It works better than you might think.


     
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    If you're outdors with no background near, why not just use another flash or two?

    The easiest way I can think of is to set them all the same distance from the model and use different power settings to control your ratios. If you don't have that fine of a control on them then move the flashes using the inverse square law as a guide as to how far to move them.

    Balance all of this nicely with the ambient and you're gold.
     
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    Ever heard of Studio Titan? They make a good disc holder, which you could then put sandbags on to hold it in place against a strong wind.

    It runs you less money than a stand and boom would, I do believe.
     
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    You don't have to use a traditional reflector to reflect light effectively. Polystyrene would work but obviously that's light as well so might equally be effected by the wind. But you could nail that to a wooden frame or the top of an old table turned over to face your subject. Okay it's not very flexible either but I'm not in a creative mood today. I'll bet you or someone else here can come up with something better though.
     
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    This was my thought, but it obviously depends on the surface.
     
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    So Red, did you do this thing or what?
     
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    Red? Who's red?

    I haven't yet. The shoot got moved datewise. Haven't decided which way to go, but I do have someone who's willing to get up early so I may have an assistant yet.

    After I put together my background stand fully expanded by myself a few times, I realized that an assistant would be the best way to go.
     
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    LOL Sorry, rufus is a term for red to reddish-brown.

    What exactly are you trying to accomplish on this outdoor shoot? And your available equipment list would be helpful.

    Also, have you ever heard of a photographer named Dean Collins? He died a while back but if you know anyone who has access to his DVD there are a couple of very helpful sections on shooting outdoors.

    This is the one.. http://www.deancollins.com/
     
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    I'm trying to take a minimal amount of gear due to the hike. There's a place we're trying to get a 'out of place' girl in a nice fancy dress in this extremely wooded gully. She'll be backlit and the reflector will have to do all of the fill.

    Basically, beyond the camera, I'll have the hotshoe flash on an OC3 which I may or may not use and the 42" reflector.

    I shall look this Dean Collins person up.
     
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    I'll pay you 500 of your US dollars If you don't think it was worth every second that you spent watching that DVD! ;)

















    Assuming that you have $500 that is. :lol::lol::lol:
     
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    Ah, yes... the voice operated light or relector stand method... my favorite. Moves on command without much interation needed by the photographer... lol.
     

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