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Canon U.S.A. : Consumer & Home Office : EOS 60D
Canon U.S.A. : Support & Drivers : EOS 30D
The 60D has only slightly better ISO performance than the 30D has.
DxOMark - Compare cameras side by side
For improved ISO performance, you may want to consider switching to Nikon.
Nikon's D90 out performs the 60D, but even better is Nikon's D7000 or D7100.
DxOMark - Compare cameras side by side
o hey tyler said:Why aren't people citing more DxO mark "findings?" I mean, the D600 is apparently worlds better than a 6D according to DxO, but no one cares to note the massive discrepancies between DxO and actual photographs taken with each camera.
I take anything I see on DxO with a grain of salt, because it hasn't translated into real life.
\Canon and Nikon are pretty much equal to everyone but the most astute computer calculated pixel peepers.
o hey tyler said:Why aren't people citing more DxO mark "findings?" I mean, the D600 is apparently worlds better than a 6D according to DxO, but no one cares to note the massive discrepancies between DxO and actual photographs taken with each camera.
I take anything I see on DxO with a grain of salt, because it hasn't translated into real life.
Yeah, a lot of Canon fanboys hate to admit that DxO Mark's results are valid because Canon sensors have so much more noise, and Canon can still not get rid of the pattern banding in shadows, and so on. Since Canon cannot manage to put a camera within the top 10 in DxO Mark sensor performance, many on-line Canon fans try very hard to discredit DxO Mark's results. They cast aspersions and try and discredit the company that shows their "pet camera brand" does not perform as well as its main competitor.
You want a "real life" example of how DxO Mark's sensor performance ratings translate into real life, o hey tyler? Well, here's an example, published by Fred Miranda himself, on his web site. It proves that the DxO Mark Dynamic Range figures for the Canon 5D-III and the Nikon D800 are accurate, and that the Nikon's sensor dynamic range is indeed vastly superior at Base ISO. This is using the same,exact Zeiss lens on both cameras, via adapter, with both bodies at their base ISO.
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As you can see, the dynamic range the 5D Mark II manages to eke out is 11.7 EV. The Nikon D800 on the other hand, has a dynamic range of 14.4 EV, as tested, measured, and analyzed by DxO Mark's rigorous testing.
And now, wait for it, wait for it, here are two test images comparing the cameras, with the SAME, exact lens, same scene, and Base ISO levels.
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Obviously, the Canon sensor's shadows are filled with NOISE and pattern banding.
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As you can easily "see" with your eyes, if you're not a huge Canon fanboy, the DxO Mark figures show that the Canon's sensor is filled with pattern noise in the shadows, and has much lower resolving abilities. And the Canon's 11.7 EV dynamic range performance is easily bettered by the Nikon D800's better sensor, with its 14.4 EV of clean, noise-free, high-resolution imaging capability.
Pretty obviously, the DxO Mark data is well-supported by testing the two cameras head to head. And by the way, Fred Miranda is a Canon shooter himself.Buuut, he's not a Canon fanboy. Your effort to discredit DxO Mark's testing procedures will need to involve more than simply putting quotes around the word "findings", o hey tyler.