To answer my own question… size does matter. That D 7000 was heavy ! especially when compared to the D 60 and the D5200. Not too heavy but very substantial feel. I think I might be sold on that one. My local camera store had a used one in stock for 699 but it was used not refurbished. I think I would rather pay $50 more to get the refurbished model and have at least some type of warranty. Also, it was the body and the manual only none of the typical battery charger and other accessories were included.