Yeah, but so far I gather you can expect items to be in worse condition then described by
adorama, and
KEH.com tends to underrate their items, with their ratings favoring the customer.
Things tend to be a little less expensive from
adorama, and purchasing from them is kinda like rolling the dice to see what you get.
KEH.com can be similar, but their customer service is much better and their ratings are better than accurate (BGN items can often be in very good condition, with EX being pretty much new). I'll post up a pic of the lens I just bought through
KEH when it gets here, and show what BGN looks like. I'm hoping that the rumors are true.