fine art nudes?

[graigdavis]

i saw that matt ... these will be a little different ... im having a group shot outdoors, max 7 people .. hopefully i can pull it off without getting arrested

I was wondering this my self. Where can you have naked people in public and not get busted? Think I can get naked on the steps of the court house in Cleveland and take some self portrates with out getting arrested? :shock:

I was actualy talking to a girl that I knew in school. She was looking at my website and asked if I have ever done nudes. I said that I hadnt but would like to if I ever had the chance. She continued to say that her and her friend (also a woman) would like to model for me sometime. :shock:

 

[Dew]

cool

i've mention the outdoor scenes to a few of the models and most of them have posed outdoors before :shock: ... i told them the risk of getting arrested ... thats kinda half the excitment .. "the risk of getting caught"

it wont take me too long in public .. i have the scenes written down ... it would be quick ... less than 5 mins ... although, im calling the town hall to see if they offer permits for this sort of thing

 

[Big Mike]

The photographer who went around shooting nudes is Spencer Tunick. I watched the documentary on his project "Naked States" in which he shot nudes in all the Contiguous States. I believe he went on to do a world project as well.

It's an interesting question as to why female nudity is more accepted than male nudity. I'm not complaining though. For me it's a personal preference, I like the way female bodies look more than male bodies. If you don't feel that way...shoot what you like. Don't be too constrained by what society dictates. Easy to say, harder to do. Good luck.

 

[Dew]

i actually called the mayor's office and he said they do offer permits for this sort of thing and its free .. but he said it takes up to a month for approval ...

but he also hinted that if im not going to take a long time and there is no people around to go ahead and take a risk

he was a cool guy .. he also said he had spencer tunick arrested .. he had too many people

 

[havoc]

LOL Mushroom in tall grass LOL

Well sure women are hiding behind a bush more, but all the gys gotta do is tuck the tree behind the legs. The only thing to worry about is don't tuck too much, or you might squish the berries

I have been to PhotoSIG, i just recently signed up though. Its an interesting site, alot of garbage, but some interesting shots as well (i am reffering to the nudes on the site) There are lots of great photographers of many subjects there though.
One thing that pisses me off about that site though is the membership thing. I have to get recommended by a premium member or some horse poo poo. I can't view photos that are more then 24 hrs old (garbage) And i can't post until after i critique, which is fine.
So anyone got a PREMIUM MEMBERSHIP to that joint LOL Let me know if ya do.

Oh yeah Dew, if you keep it short i am sure you won't have any problems, just make sure the kiddies aren't looking.

I think the reason people like B&W nudes and not color is because B&W leaves something to the imagination, most people don't think in grey scale, so it adds soething new to the photo. Color nudes we see all the time, its in the magazines behind the counter for 8.99 an issue. ITS CALLED PORN LOL
Of course the poses really matter in nude photography, and what you actually take a picture of matters as well. A nude photographer is just a porn king if he is taking crotch shots all day. But if you use creative lighting you can get almost magical pictures, and usually you aren't showing enough of the body to worry about it being pornographic.
When i do nudes, i like to crop really tight, and focus only on the light. Usually you don't know that the model is nude, (you may guess it) but that would be your deal. Very rarely do "private parts" make their way onto my negatives when i do nudes, you might get an occasional breast, or part of one, maybe an inch or two of backside, but for me the challenge is to photograph what the light is doing over the human form, the fact that a model is there is merely a second thought. Sometimes after i am done you don't even know for sure if its a model i took a picture of, all you see is the way the light behaves over surfaces.

For me anyway, thats the part i enjoy.

 

[ksmattfish]

Havoc- I can't remember what I did, but somehow I was able to sign up for a limited membership that allowed me to view older pics and at better resolution without anyone's recommendation.

 

[Dew]

can anyone elaborate on the types of "nude" photography there is :? .. i think im getting a little confused .. for instance, whats the difference between artistic nude and figure, form .. i dunno (i know what porn is, so no need to go that route ) ... but even fine line erotica or something ..

this idea is really getting my head spinnin .. i may be looking into some pin-up girl style nudes too .. im getting a lot of great responses of women wanting to pose for me .. maybe cause im a girl

Help!!! ... damsel in distress

 

[ksmattfish]

It's all in the eye of the beholder; depends who's running the NEA. Courts all over the world debate about the definition of obscene. Maplethorp, Serrano, Jock Sturges, and Sally Mann have all been accused of obscenity, even child porn! To me what they do is fine art.

My personal definitions would be:

Fine Art Nude: figure studies, classic poses, model may be attractive, but sexyness isn't emphasized. much effort spent on creativity

Erotica: sexy emphasized, effort put into creativity, can be blunt or subtle, can be "fine" art, or even just plain old art

Porn: sexy emphasized, bottom line is cash money, very little creative thought, always blunt

 

[Big Mike]

Check out this article from my favourite "simple nude" site

http://www.domai.com/text/DOMAI-style.html

 

[graigdavis]

Check out this article from my favourite "simple nude" site

http://www.domai.com/text/DOMAI-style.html

See, I have a hard time looking at pictures like that as Art. Sure they arent there with spead legs or doing anything kinky, but I dont see the art in it either. Seems just like a naked picture of a chick to me.

Even if those were in B&W I wouldnt see it as art. Most of those girls were just standing there with their arms to their sides. And most of those pictures were just strait on shots. there is no creativity to it.

I see those pictures fitting in as Pin ups. Those would make a good car garrage callendar

 

[Dew]

i guess i would imagine that's something like "nature nude" ... im guessing .. i have no idea

 

[Big Mike]

I agree, those are not artistic nudes. They are simple nudes. The artistic aspect and the erotic aspect are secondary to the simple beauty of a naked girl.

Definitely not the most creative photography, but one of my personal favourites. Besides the attractive bodies, it's the look & feel of the free spirit...to be young and naked.

I linked to that only because I thought that the article may be helpful to form an opinion pertaining to different types of nude photos. It's not for everybody.

 

[Dew]

their not bad pictures .. reminds me of something like Playboy (but i only have read the articles )

nah, im not fronting .. i've owned porn before, lots of it .. but i want to take some photos .. i dont want people to get "excited" or anything .. just plain ole nekid

plus all of our movies are on vhs .. we have a dvd player now :smileys:

 

[Tammy]

The other day I noticed some information on limited memberships @ photosig at the bottom of their new account page. Here's a link:

http://www.photosig.com/go/membership/newaccount

 

[drdan]

Dew I wouldn't get worried or confused about what kind of nudes you're doing. When you start shooting your professionalism will kick in and start seeing the shapes and scenes you're looking for. Some will turn out better than others and some won't really be what you were after, just like any pictures.