Get corporate

[bingbang]

@e.rose : Do what you want, it is your problem, not Mine . I hate when people feel the right to say "if you don't like my comment I will punish you by not commenting again."

 

[Designer]

What does it mean "baked" ? I guess this is slang?

I had to look it up here:

Urban Dictionary: baked

 

[bingbang]

I am not sure he will appreciate this comment, as this is the way he is. Looks to me like you say someone is looking dull.

 

[Designer]

I am not sure he will appreciate this comment, as this is the way he is. Looks to me like you say someone is looking dull.

For what it is worth, I don't see it (baked, I mean). Try not to read anything extra in the comments. This forum just has that.

 

[ratssass]

Hammy's neighbor?

 

[bingbang]

Part of the problem is what I should read then. I think this is complex in this post.

 

[e.rose]

@e.rose : Do what you want, it is your problem, not Mine . I hate when people feel the right to say "if you don't like my comment I will punish you by not commenting again."

That is not at all what I am saying.

When I said, "But that's just my opinion, so you're welcome to do with it what you'd like." -- I meant... "That's just my 2 cents" or "That's my opinion. Your mileage may vary." or "That's my opinion, and you may not agree, and that's okay" as in "feel free to take it or leave it." -- I really don't know what phrases you use in Belgium that may be similar, to use as an example as to what I mean. I only have American examples.

When you say, " sure I do what pleases me. You don't like it, that's fine with me.", that comes off as unappreciative, which is why I said I wouldn't bother you anymore.

NOT because I am trying to "punish" you, but because I don't like wasting my time making comments to someone who doesn't appreciate it. Maybe that's not what you meant, but that's how it came across.

When someone critiques my photos, I do not always agree with the feedback, but I at least appreciate that they took the time to leave a comment.

I'm sure we're dealing with a language barrier here, but my comments on your photos were only meant to be helpful, not to be mean, and not meant to say, "I DON'T LIKE THIS!"

I'm certainly not trying to punish anyone. It's the internet. I don't know you. I'm not emotionally invested enough to want to "punish" you.

 

[pixmedic]

For the record, e.rose can punish ME anytime...

Im on my phone at work today so i will take a look from my computer when i get home tomorrow in order to give you a more accurate assessment of the photo.

 

[e.rose]

For the record, e.rose can punish ME anytime...

Im on my phone at work today so i will take a look from my computer when i get home tomorrow in order to give you a more accurate assessment of the photo.

 

[Designer]

Part of the problem is what I should read then. I think this is complex in this post.

Yes, quite complex considering the conversation went in several directions at once.

 

[Bossy]

Catchlights in his eyes would've helped liven his face up a bit. Maybe you have another similar shot where his face is less tilted?

 

[bingbang]

So let put this on linguistic issues, e.rose. It is true that I do not master alll the subtleties of English and for sure I am not familiar with American variations, though your reaction is rather universal from what I experienced so far, so was my comment. And the word "punish" was intended to be understood in a very symbolic way. This being said, it pisses me off when comments are restricted to "too low", "too high" and so on. I am not presenting a piece of engineering that ask for judgment about the fact that it is built according to industry standards. We can forever argue about the fact that it could have been better this way or another way. This is really not the point. Sure, things could be improved in any photography from a purely technical viewpoint, and I am not stupid enough to believe that what I am doing is perfect. But I don't want people to restrict their opinions about technicalities that look secondary beyond an given point. I am not a master of lighting, but I am fairly advanced compared to what I have seen here so far on that side. You might believe that what I am saying is pretentious, but that's not the idea. I do appreciate feedback as well about lighting when they are grounded and when done by people that do understand what they are talking about, because I want to improve. But I have read so far (and not here in particular) so many so-called "advices" that are plainly stupid. Some were on the opposite pretty good. I believe people should refrain to give technical advices if they do not realize themselves similar works. I would not dare to give advices to people doing landscapes, as I have no expertise in this field. But I still can say that I like it or not and why I feel that way about a picture. So please make the difference between these two aspects : they are different and they should be kept distinct.

I also realize that, by writing this, a consequence would be that nobody would be willing to comment my photos anymore, either because they would not dare or because they would believe it does not worth doing it as I am a kind of *******. This is the price that I must accept to possibly pay for saying things in a straightforward but deeply honest way. I am not naive either, honesty does not always pay.

 

[bingbang]

Btw, I had a look at you website, and indeed I fully recognize you the credit for criticizing me on technical aspects based on your personal work . You might be right saying that the lighting could have been improved based on the model's physical features, who has recessed eyes. Still I have no explanation for the long shadow below the nose, it does not fit with the angle of the light. Could be linked to the fact that the nose is longer than usual. I need to check based on other pictures.

 

[binga63]

Bingbang.. I didn't see corporate in his pose, I saw something else, it could have been how far he was leaning over or the warmth of the shot.... I had a go at altering the feel of it all hopefully it is ok

 

[bingbang]

Does not fit my view, as tilting the picture this way gives to me an awkward impression of imbalance : its body is now straight and is arm is coming diagonally in a somewhat artificial way. But thanks for proposing, it is very interesting to compare both indeed.