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subscuck said:
I was posting while you were responding to Derrel, therefore I didn't see your acknowledgements. My post was also directed more towards all the newbies, and, yes, a bit towards you as well.

There is a place, time and effective way to use space. The most common misuse of space you see on this, and other fora, is putting a subject on left/right side of frame, looking in that direction, but the space is on the opposite side. This makes for a pic that looks claustrophobic as the visual "feel" is that the person is crammed up against the side of the frame. The effective way of doing this is to have the empty space where the subject is looking/facing (sometimes referred to as "looking space"). Sometimes empty space is just that. It actually detracts from the pic because of the visual sense of being off balance. So you're correct in saying using space isn't an objective mistake, but the way it's (mis)used often is.

As far as minimizing your comments, certainly not my intent. Once you've been here for a while, and hopefully you will be, you'll see time and again newbs saying the exact same things that I referenced. They know their pics are perfect because they are exactly what they intended. I call shenanigans. Again, artistic conventions are in place for a reason; they work. And they work because they are based on the way the human eye/brain connection works. Without understanding how things work, it's impossible to consistantly break rules in a way that makes for a good shot.

Composition is definitely my weakest area. This thread has given me even more food for thought and some great ideas. My use of space is improving, but I have a long way to go! As I keep telling people, good photography is way harder than I thought it would be before I tried it for myself.

I definitely don't think my pictures are anywhere close to perfect! :) The best I can do is keep learning and keep practicing.

I appreciate everyone's tips and advice!
 
Maybe it has something to do with my childhood, but Optimus will always be my favorite, though Rodimus was pretty badass.
 
There is a place, time and effective way to use space.

I agree. The best use is for the prolific watermark. I swear that is the only reason these spaces exist anymore. In fact I'd swear from what I have seen they are positioned by photogs new and not new just for that purpose. :confused:

Holy cow. This might actually be a serious problem. lol I'm fairly new to photography and I see SO much of that type of photography lately. I seriously wonder if some photographers add that space purposefully so they have a nice landing zone for their watermarks, then I'm being unduly influenced by all that empty space because I see so much of it. :-) Yeah, that's it. I'll blame those guys!

Or maybe it's just that I have poorly tuned, inexperienced compositional skills. Nah, couldn't be that, could it? ;)
 
pearlphotos said:
Nice shot, lovely model, background is not so good. it's eye irritating

Do you mean the quality of the background or the content? What could I have done to make it not be irritating?
 
If there is one person on this site whose posts are worth reading, it's Derrel. His posts should be linked on the front page. Even if he isn't talking about photography, he still writes very well, and I can feel the enthusiasm.

We're all going to end up on someone's ignore list sooner or later. I lasted 800 posts. Are we here to be touchy of someone's "tone" (read: omg) or to look past that and actually just read what the post says? When new members understand that, they'll do fine here.

Oh Dear, someone hand this guy a tissue so he can wipe his nose. LOL. Just jacking with ya dude.....
 
As for the Teresa link, I personally like it. Yes, I have some nits:

The cars (patch out)
The weird left leg placement. (wait for the leg to come down)

What I like is the saturation
The expression of joy on the model
The "set design" (outfit, cooresponding colors, background (without the cars).

Now back to negative space...It's a big client fave. (At least in my business). Wanna know why? (This from client's own mouths:) "It looks modern and natural". I'm not making this up folks. Clients think it's "new" and "arty" even though photogs have been doing it for ages. A lot of my clients don't like centered shots because they feel too much like studio shoots or mom's old photos. Even though people have been doing negative space for a while now, it's still "fresh" to the clients.

Now, is it a waste of space? An oldie PPA no no? Ummm, kinda. (As for PPA oldies it still has to do with the thirds). But I'm not entering contests and haven't for at least 5 years. I let my clients tell me what they want within reason. (I absolutely refuse to do selective color. Absolutely REFUSE- lol)

Otherwise, I say there is an @ss for every seat. The less conventional I can be, the better it is for my business. Again, within reason.
 
If there is one person on this site whose posts are worth reading, it's Derrel. His posts should be linked on the front page. Even if he isn't talking about photography, he still writes very well, and I can feel the enthusiasm.

We're all going to end up on someone's ignore list sooner or later. I lasted 800 posts. Are we here to be touchy of someone's "tone" (read: omg) or to look past that and actually just read what the post says? When new members understand that, they'll do fine here.

Oh Dear, someone hand this guy a tissue so he can wipe his nose. LOL. Just jacking with ya dude.....

I've gotten a cold. What a ridiculous expression. I'm not even cold. In Norwegian, we have a proper name for this sickness! What a weird language this English is. It has even got "ish" in it, so we're talking something that loosely resembles a language called "Engl"...we're talking "Engl"-ish. My point is that I could use with a few tissues!
 
If there is one person on this site whose posts are worth reading, it's Derrel. His posts should be linked on the front page. Even if he isn't talking about photography, he still writes very well, and I can feel the enthusiasm.

We're all going to end up on someone's ignore list sooner or later. I lasted 800 posts. Are we here to be touchy of someone's "tone" (read: omg) or to look past that and actually just read what the post says? When new members understand that, they'll do fine here.

Oh Dear, someone hand this guy a tissue so he can wipe his nose. LOL. Just jacking with ya dude.....

I've gotten a cold. What a ridiculous expression. I'm not even cold. In Norwegian, we have a proper name for this sickness! What a weird language this English is. It has even got "ish" in it, so we're talking something that loosely resembles a language called "Engl"...we're talking "Engl"-ish. My point is that I could use with a few tissues!

Ok, I'm gonna switch to sign language now: Oh never mind. Funny response. We're cool my man. I'd explain it, but your last post was priceless so I'll just leave it be. Gold. Total gold.
 
I just realized that the face on Compaq's Avatar, is very fitting for that post :lol:


( I'm just busting your chops Compaq, don't get all puffy about it )
 
Today consider me the anti-prime with my new slow f2.8 unsharp zoomer
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