How to Alienate Models

[cgw]

A bit more reality-based than the "posing" thread:

How to Alienate Photography Models in Five Easy Steps

 

[hamlet]

Sounds like Stanley kubrick's profile. Eccentric or insane, you be the judge.

 

[ph0enix]

She seems like a whiner. The article focuses on negativity instead of providing useful tips on how not to alienate models.

 

[rexbobcat]

She seems like a whiner. The article focuses on negativity instead of providing useful tips on how not to alienate models.

One would assume that you not alienate models by not doing those things she says alienates models.

 

[tirediron]

And of course, how many of these "models" have alienated photographers by showing up with outfits that were not the ones agreed upon, being late, cancelling at the last minute, no-showing, etc, etc...

 

[cgw]

And of course, how many of these "models" have alienated photographers by showing up with outfits that were not the ones agreed upon, being late, cancelling at the last minute, no-showing, etc, etc...

Fewer than you'd think. Her complaints echo those of models I know who've seen more than a few creep/deadbeat/perv "photographers."

 

[robbins.photo]

And of course, how many of these "models" have alienated photographers by showing up with outfits that were not the ones agreed upon, being late, cancelling at the last minute, no-showing, etc, etc...

Wait , so you are saying that there are people out there who are self centered, rude and inconsiderate in addition to being physically attractive?

The hell you say!

Lol

 

[ph0enix]

She seems like a whiner. The article focuses on negativity instead of providing useful tips on how not to alienate models.

One would assume that you not alienate models by not doing those things she says alienates models.

Of course I get that but the author decided to focus on the negative aspects instead of turning her experiences into a positive/constructive guide that others might find useful which makes her seem like a whiner.

 

[Braineack]

And of course, how many of these "models" have alienated photographers by showing up with outfits that were not the ones agreed upon, being late, cancelling at the last minute, no-showing, etc, etc...

Wait , so you are saying that there are people out there who are self centered, rude and inconsiderate in addition to being physically attractive?

Sup, bro.

 

[tirediron]

And of course, how many of these "models" have alienated photographers by showing up with outfits that were not the ones agreed upon, being late, cancelling at the last minute, no-showing, etc, etc...

Fewer than you'd think. Her complaints echo those of models I know who've seen more than a few creep/deadbeat/perv "photographers."

I'm willing to bet it runs pretty close to 50/50

 

[cgw]

And of course, how many of these "models" have alienated photographers by showing up with outfits that were not the ones agreed upon, being late, cancelling at the last minute, no-showing, etc, etc...

Fewer than you'd think. Her complaints echo those of models I know who've seen more than a few creep/deadbeat/perv "photographers."

I'm willing to bet it runs pretty close to 50/50

As usual, you make your own luck.

 

[limr]

So, her first three "tips" are essentially telling photographers to not be dicks. Okay, fine. Her last two, though? Since when do models get copies of the photographer's work, and since when are they credited? As for being compared to a chair...well, that's kind of the purpose of a model. They are props. Specifically, they are clothes hangers. The focus is supposed to be on the clothes or accessories, and not on the model.

 

[justingrainge]

Every example given seems to be the worst behavior possible (within legal limits), it's not too hard to do better by behaving er... professionally.

 

[tirediron]

So, her first three "tips" are essentially telling photographers to not be dicks. Okay, fine. Her last two, though? Since when do models get copies of the photographer's work, and since when are they credited? As for being compared to a chair...well, that's kind of the purpose of a model. They are props. Specifically, they are clothes hangers. The focus is supposed to be on the clothes or accessories, and not on the model.

This is Model Mayhem stuff - Trade for Print (TFP) is very common, and crediting the model in the images is a generally expected courtesy (as it is for the model to credit the photographer). It's where a lot of "models" go for their first portfolio work, and it can be a great resource for both photographers and models, BUT... many (most?) of the models are the modelling equivalent of the "Fauxtog"; that is, they're young people (most female, 16-25) who've been told by friends and family that they have 'the look' and should become a model.

The simple fact is that most of them are not models; they are aspiring models at best, but like the "professional" photographer who just bought is camera at Best Buy and is now flogging $100 weddings with 1000 images on a CD, they know virtually nothing about the industry. When an "experienced" model shows up for a headshot session and then looks at you like a Labrador puppy when you ask to see her comp card/Z sheet so that you can see her last images...

 

[limr]

So, her first three "tips" are essentially telling photographers to not be dicks. Okay, fine. Her last two, though? Since when do models get copies of the photographer's work, and since when are they credited? As for being compared to a chair...well, that's kind of the purpose of a model. They are props. Specifically, they are clothes hangers. The focus is supposed to be on the clothes or accessories, and not on the model.

This is Model Mayhem stuff - Trade for Print (TFP) is very common, and crediting the model in the images is a generally expected courtesy (as it is for the model to credit the photographer). It's where a lot of "models" go for their first portfolio work, and it can be a great resource for both photographers and models, BUT... many (most?) of the models are the modelling equivalent of the "Fauxtog"; that is, they're young people (most female, 16-25) who've been told by friends and family that they have 'the look' and should become a model.

The simple fact is that most of them are not models; they are aspiring models at best, but like the "professional" photographer who just bought is camera at Best Buy and is now flogging $100 weddings with 1000 images on a CD, they know virtually nothing about the industry. When an "experienced" model shows up for a headshot session and then looks at you like a Labrador puppy when you ask to see her comp card/Z sheet so that you can see her last images...

Seems about right.

I'm still not really feeling her pain.