How to use your built in Flash in the sun

[kundalini]

You just used a lot of vocabulary that is foreign to me, that's all.

Specifics please. I'm an open book. A book from a dummy, but willing to try nonetheless.


There is a stickied thread in the Beginners forum that may help you out with the lingo. Photography can certainly be a confusing dialogue at times.
http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/...ery/167288-camera-terms-acronyms-dummies.html

 

[Robin Usagani]

Ahhhh. You are really an ass. One user just told me he didn't know what metering was.

Diredted at me? Actually it would read better if you changed word positions, such as, You really are an ass And that's my fault because.......... :lmao: Good luck in the future. Perhaps your buddy with the new 5dmkii or whatever can guide you through.

Hah... This pretty much summarized how ugly you are. Maybe I should start posting in my native language so I don't have to face the grammar Nazi. That is very classy of you bringing MohameinK into the conversation. Every other post on TPF turns into pissing contest most off the time.

 

[o hey tyler]

Stop being an ass. It is a dark wood. Ok I should have expose it more manually instead using aperture priority.

Excuse me. Would you care to rephrase that comment? Can you honestly say that the subject in #1 is "exposed pretty good"? You can't see $hit except a silohuette and overexposed bits.



While it is best IMO to be in Manual shoot mode while using flash, I made this little test to underexpose the background and use flash to light the subject using Aperture shooting mode. The subject is black and is backlit by the morning sun whereas you had a dark brown subject that was side lit. Not exactly the same kettle of fish, but close enough for government work.

I metered to get a shutter speed of 1/250s, which is my x-synch speed. Aperture = f/5.6.

I then stopped down my aperture to f/10 to underexposed the background to my liking. This rendered the background more in focus but since I had plenty of distance between subject and background, the OOF is acceptable and actually adds to the image IMO.. The background is okay, but Bruce is very underexposed. There is no detail in Bruce's fur.​

Add some flash.​

I wasn't sold yet, so I add some FEC to the shot by +2.​

+2 FEC may have been too much, but I think you can follow the thought process.


If it's not too much bother for you, stop being an ass. It's okay to take a step back.​

Kick ass post! I used a similar strategy when experimenting with OCF the other day. Underexposing w/ a smaller aperture, and then using fill.

 

[Derrel]

Ok, I just want to show a little tutorial on how to use your internal flash when you are shooting in bright daylight. I don't have that much experience with other cameras so all I know is what on my Canon 500D. For this experiment I used spot metering. I am writing this to help beginners on this forum.

First of all, your internal flash can only be shot at 1/200 sec or slower. It cannot be quicker than that. I do not recommend using a flash with aperture priority. Lets say you are using aperture priority at f/2.8. The camera automatically sets the shutter to 1/1000 sec for example. When you turn on the flash, the shutter is automatically changed to 1/200 because you are using the flash. That means you are already super overexposed right of the bat because you shoot it 5X too long plus you are adding flash!

The first photo I used aperture priority. I metered it right on the sculpture. As you can see the sky is pretty pale. But the subject is exposed pretty good.


_MG_4848.jpg by rusagani, on Flickr



Now, instead of metering the subject, I moved my center mark to the blue sky. I use manual at this point. I am keeping the shutter speed at 1/200. I changed the aperture until I move my metering bar to 0. As you can see the sky is now blue... but the subject is really dark.

_MG_4847.jpg by rusagani, on Flickr


Now finally I use the same setting as the prior setting and flip my internal flash. You can see the subject, and the background is not super bright and or blown.

_MG_4849.jpg by rusagani, on Flickr

Now if you use your built in flash, you are limited to 1/200 max shutter speed. That means with this condition, the only way you can restrict less light coming in to your sensor is by making your aperture smaller. So if you want to blur out the background, it impossible to do it in some light condition because you have to reduce the size of your aperture which will make your DOF deeper. You cant make the shutter speed any faster because you already topped it at 1/200.

If you have an external flash though, you can set it to HSS and you can set your shutter speed however fast you want until you are at the camera's limitation.

I hope this will help some of the beginners out there.

Color-blind light metering at its 'finest'. All of these are BAD exposure computations.

 

[Robin Usagani]

Yes I understand the exposure on some examples are a little off. This is just an example.

Yes Derrel. I wanted to put whatever my camera spits out with spot metering. Kinda defeat the purpose if I adjust it.

 

[ChefStaller]

i appricaite the work guys, I still have a large block of information to proccess with how much i have been learning and breaking it down step by step, and why you did what, really helps to figure it out. Foundation is key!

 

[MohaimenK]

OK so why am I in this conversaion again? Kundalini? Seriously? Does my 5d MK2 bother you buddy??

 

[SrBiscuit]

thread = lulz

 

[Robin Usagani]

thread = lulz

Thats what I get for trying to help noobs when I am a noob my self :lmao:. FAIL!

 

[SrBiscuit]

yeah, i know your intentions were good schwett, but unless your tute was flawless it's a bit of a pointless effort. you get an e for effort.

and moh...no one is bothered by your 5d except your pecker which i imagine hasnt had a break since you purchased it....and by it i mean the 5d, not your penis.

 

[o hey tyler]

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[MohaimenK]

yeah, i know your intentions were good schwett, but unless your tute was flawless it's a bit of a pointless effort. you get an e for effort.

and moh...no one is bothered by your 5d except your pecker which i imagine hasnt had a break since you purchased it....and by it i mean the 5d, not your penis.

Well Kundalini brought me up in this convo...funny I don't hear any peep out of some of you on images that I post are good. But there some to be certain one of you always there to point out what others did wrong. :er:

"Diredted at me? Actually it would read better if you changed word positions, such as, You really are an ass And that's my fault because.......... :lmao: Good luck in the future. Perhaps your buddy with the new 5dmkii or whatever can guide you through."

 

[SrBiscuit]

funny I don't hear any peep out of some of you on images that I post are good.

not....gonna.....bite.

 

[MohaimenK]

funny I don't hear any peep out of some of you on images that I post are good.

not....gonna.....bite.

don't worry that wasn't geared toward you buddy....a general statement to those who know what I'm talking about

 

[kundalini]

OK so why am I in this conversaion again? Kundalini? Seriously? Does my 5d MK2 bother you buddy??

Not in the slightest. Does the fact that I'm hung like a Shetland pony bother you?

Well Kundalini brought me up in this convo...

Only by default. You two seem to be joined at the hip. Nothing wrong with that, but Schwetty seemed to take offense and wanted to bow out his chest at the first image he offered as "the subject being exposed pretty good". I was simply washing my hands of trying to explain. Since you have gone pro, I figured you could help him better than I. You know...... the blind leading the blind sorta thing.

.....funny I don't hear any peep out of some of you on images that I post are good. But there some to be certain one of you always there to point out what others did wrong. :er:

Have you ever consider that some people are actually trying to help you see things that you haven't seen yourself? Do you really think that ANYONE on this forum hasn't made the same mistake at least once? Do you think that anyone won't make another mistake? I certainly have my plate full of boners. I don't have an emotional attachment to photos that I offer my thoughts on and can afford not to be biased. It is disheartening to see the same issues crop up with each posting from the same person (in general, no one in particular) using lame excuses given as to why the person shot it "their way" as opposed to absorbing the information they have asked for previously and have been generously given by the bucket loads.

Unless the photos you post are stellar, but may be really good, chances are they will get a lot of views and little C&C. The harsh reality is people that offer ways to improve will typically point to where you need to improve. Take that as a negative if you wish, but unless the faults are brought to the surface, you will continually run only to stand still. Foundations and basic principles for any endeavour are there for a reason. Choose to embrace or choose to ignore. Your progress and understanding will be hinged on which path you choose AND in the manner you choose.