But you see, that's where you're mistaken. The dough used for "real" bagels isn't bread dough. Yes, there's flour, yeast, and water, but there's also eggs. And to get that wonderful crust, they are boiled (well, more like blaunched), then set on wood racks against the wood fire in the oven... Honestly - it just ain't the same. But if you haven't ever had the real thing, I can understand why you would be confused. Our Vermont friends still come away with whole trunkfulls when they come visiting, and at the border, HomeLand Security verify that they aren't contraband by testing two or three. If you ever come to Montreal, there's a list of things you need to try, and bagels fresh from the oven are on that list.