"If You Don't Like It, Don't Look!"

[GeorgieGirl]

Yeah, again, Megan, you're seeeeeeeeeeeeeeriously not paying attention.

I don't think a single soul on this thread said they had a problem with...

a> breastfeeding
b> seeing your breasts, sexually or otherwise

I certainly don't. Frankly, I don't much care what you do. I'm a firm believer in the very simple principle of "Your freedom to swing your fist ends at the end of my nose", and you taking off any of your clothes for any reason really has no negative effect on me at all.

I think people on "my side" of the argument have simply suggested that you may want to consider that your choices may not make everyone around you all that happy, and you may consider doing whatever you practically can to minimize that impact on others. And many of us have kids and some of the folks on here have breast fed, and plenty of those folks have said that they did or would step aside to feed the child in a more discreet way.

You and the other one... whatever her name is... have taken this crazy sort of "anyone who suggests maybe I might take a moment to be more discreet is necessarily telling me I have to first starve my child and then go feed them in the sewer" position which is just absolutely ridiculous. You really might consider calming down a little. The whole persecuted act is really just weird.

I don't think that is what it is. I think that you'd have to have done this to follow the lack of inhibition that comes from being forced to react to a child as a nursing mother does. I think that there has been a real amount of insight and detail that you might not have read or if you did that you have decided to ignore. The breast becomes benign to a nursing mother. It could just as easily be a baby bottle, and no one says boo about covering the bottle up or about the sounds a baby makes while taking a bottle.

I think you have some more soul searching to do....

 

[punch]

the whole forum can crash and burn... it usually does on a daily basis.

you can't ask about a 50mm focal length without a whole lot of pontificating and judgement.

 

[PapaMatt]

i'm sensing a baby man who doesn't like to get told ANYTHING by women, MTVision. but he's unsubscribed now to save himself from our idioitic blatherings and inability to undersatnd. what a blessing for him.

I did not unsubscribe, just tired of all this childish bla bla bla

Just look for my next tread :lmao:

 

[MTVision]

I don't think the nipple slip is the problem at all.

I think that because the breasts are viewed (disclaimer- not by all) as sexual objects, when they are a focal point such as during a feeding, the association makes some feel uncomfortable on a subconscious level.
I also think that they probably would not be able to explain why it is, but they would still feel the way they do.

For example, if a woman simply took of her top and showed her breasts, you'd probably get a lot of shocked and positive attention (this will change with the group).

That's exactly it.

No you miss the point... the mom who said she WOULD take out her breasts to feed her baby said she would NOT allow her nipple to be seen...

You don't find that ...

Oh christ, why am I bothering?



Ok, unsubscribing now...

Good luck everyone.

Please do.

 

[MTVision]

you know, manaheim... every time MTVision addresses what you've said, she's responding to it directly. yet, you always start by telling her she doesn't understand... that's really condescending.

and if you're referring to me as "the other one" than YOU'VE grossly misunderstood. the nipple IS the sexualized part of the breast in current culture. recall the wardrobe malfunction at the superbowl. i am working within current cultural context. CLEARLY the breast tissue covered by skin is fair game, since half the women on this forum use avatars with their cleavage showing, which never seems to upset the forum users...

Because Manaheim is a grown up who knows all and I misunderstand everything. Even though half the crap he wrote is exactly the same things I have written. Once again, if there was no issue with breastfeeding or seeing boobs then people wouldn't be suggesting that they cover up, show some consideration, don't do it in restaurants, etc.

 

[punch]

i'm sensing a baby man who doesn't like to get told ANYTHING by women, MTVision. but he's unsubscribed now to save himself from our idioitic blatherings and inability to undersatnd. what a blessing for him.

I did not unsubscribe, just tired of all this childish bla bla bla

Just look for my next tread :lmao:

not you, papamatt. i wasn't referring to you.

 

[punch]

i'm sensing a baby man who doesn't like to get told ANYTHING by women, MTVision. but he's unsubscribed now to save himself from our idioitic blatherings and inability to undersatnd. what a blessing for him.

No, I hadn't gotten around to it yet... but now you're resorting to the typical next approach for irrational desk-pounding arguments, which is direct insults. It's not really doing you any favors in the credibility department.

You don't know me from Adam (an ironic turn of phrase given the discussion)... I could be a sexist pig. I could be someone raised in a household with a VERY strong woman figure at the head of it, for whom I have great respect. Oh but you assume, don't you... yes you do. Assumptions and insults. Very nice.

you love to talk about desk-pounding. it's only purpose is to nullify arguments you don't like, but can't argue with.

and i don't know you, nor do you know me, but we are judging each other by words and behavior, and i can't say that yours is any less appealing to me than mine is to you.

there's no way to argue that you don't try to distract and ineffectively nullify every point made contrary to yours. simply look back.

 

[Dominantly]

This thread needs more 50mm talk.

 

[PapaMatt]

i'm sensing a baby man who doesn't like to get told ANYTHING by women, MTVision. but he's unsubscribed now to save himself from our idioitic blatherings and inability to undersatnd. what a blessing for him.

I did not unsubscribe, just tired of all this childish bla bla bla

Just look for my next tread :lmao:

not you, papamatt. i wasn't referring to you.

I am so sorry, this is way out of control, I deleted all my info in my profile and i though you were talking about me. I seem to have started all this mess. Sorry

 

[punch]

This thread needs more 50mm talk.

50mm is a boring focal length. when i say that, i mean that you're a fauxtographer and you're not ready to go pro. stop charging. and why don't you ever listen to my C&C?

 

[MTVision]

I am so sorry, this is way out of control, I deleted all my info in my profile and i though you were talking about me. I seem to have started all this mess. Sorry

You didn't start anything. You posted a picture. It doesn't really have anything to do with you since you haven't commented on the topic since right after you posted the picture.

And I'm not sure why you thought that comment was directed at your anyways

 

[GeorgieGirl]

This thread needs more 50mm talk.

No. It needs the guys to come clean and attempt to explain in a string of understandable words why they are having this conflict.

 

[MTVision]

No. It needs the guys to come clean and attempt to explain in a string of understandable words why they are having this conflict.

Right? The don't mind breastfeeding or seeing boobs (according to manaheim) but it makes them uncomfortable. Jeez - I must be missing something.

 

[punch]

can we be honest? a breastfeeding breast is less than gorgeous. what's to be excited about?

 

[MTVision]

i'm sensing a baby man who doesn't like to get told ANYTHING by women, MTVision. but he's unsubscribed now to save himself from our idioitic blatherings and inability to undersatnd. what a blessing for him.

LOL!