In defense of WiFi...

[Dao]

For me, WiFi is a feature I like to have in my camera. I may not use it all the time, but it make things easier and it is not an feature that will cost a lot to add in the future.

For wireless tether shooting to remote storage. I can see professional photographer can take a photo and that photo end up in a secured cloud storage in less than a minute. By the time the photo session is done, he/she already has a backup copy of his/her work. Since it can upload the photos during the shooting without the photographer do anything.


What about in sports events. Let's say the coming Worldcup in Brazil. A sport photographer take photos during the events and using the wifi to send the photos to his phone in the background in which they all get upload right away to the cloud storage (also happens in the background). So the backend office crew can access the photos right away. They can sort them, process them and publishing them right away online.

So the photographer do not need to wait until the break and rush back to his/her laptop and upload them at that time. Of course, for a sports photographer who do everything by himself or herself, that's a different story.

What if you take few photos and a police officer stop you and ask you to erase them. If I do not want to waste my valuable time and argue about it, I will say okay and erase them. But I'd already has a copy in the cloud. And it is possible that to have your PC at home/work download them automatically.

 

[Devinhullphoto]

Why limit it at wifi? Why not add 4g to all nikons. Now my photos can go to my Facebook anywhere!

 

[Juga]

Why limit it at wifi? Why not add 4g to all nikons. Now my photos can go to my Facebook anywhere!

Why hate on WiFi? Sounds like you be jealous. Is it harming your way of life? Afraid Skynet might go live?

 

[Steve5D]

Thats my point. There is a solution and it works just as well as if it were integrated. The OP is complaining about nothing.

He always wanted to plug his upcoming app.

Find one instance in this thread where i have.

OP says "it's not a gimmick" and then lists three uses for it that are pretty clear-cut gimmicky uses...

I agree that it has some potential, and they should have wifi control built into the custom firmware APIs (if they aren't already! Has magic lantern gotten their claws into this yet?) and should probably begin introducing it on future models whenever reasonable. But it's mostly going to be for fun, and/or as a sort of flipout screen on steroids. I.e. largely gimmick.

I've yet to hear any serious mainstream reason why wifi will be super important. Yet.

I guess taking pictures at high school football games, editing them on a tablet, then posting them to twitter&facebook in near-real-time is a gimmick. I'll make sure to tell all the parents that cant make it to games... that their praise is unfounded. I'll tell the other schools that have started copying our workflow they are wasting their time.

And your right... Tethered photography is a joke. Nobody in a studio situation wants instant access to what the camera see's.

And golly.. It is so much easier to pull the memory card out of a camera and plug it into a card reader. Why would anybody want to skip that step and just pull the images off the camera wirelessly.

Wow, dude, settle down. No need to get the panties in a knot over this. You're getting upset because some people don't share your opinion. Get used to it. It's called "life". You'll understand this once you get out in the real world.

No one here is saying that you shouldn't do with it what you want. Not a single person has said that. You're getting upset because there are those who simply have no need for it. In that regard, their opinion matters, because they know how they shoot, process, upload, etc. You don't know how hey shoot so, with respect to that, your opinion doesn't matter.

That's just the way it is.

I can certainly see where it could have some benefit for certain shooters. I'm not one of those people, and someone going off the emotional deep end like you are isn't likely to change my mind...

 

[Devinhullphoto]

Why hate on WiFi? Sounds like you be jealous. Is it harming your way of life? Afraid Skynet might go live?

Jealous of technology? Oh yeah, I desire nothing more than having my photos appear online right away or on my computer. There are other things they could work on improving or innovating.

 

[Steve5D]

What about in sports events. Let's say the coming Worldcup in Brazil. A sport photographer take photos during the events and using the wifi to send the photos to his phone in the background in which they all get upload right away to the cloud storage (also happens in the background). So the backend office crew can access the photos right away. They can sort them, process them and publishing them right away online.

What if you take few photos and a police officer stop you and ask you to erase them. If I do not want to waste my valuable time and argue about it, I will say okay and erase them. But I'd already has a copy in the cloud. And it is possible that to have your PC at home/work download them automatically.

If you're going to offer up examples of where it would be beneficial, you should probably choose examples that people will actually find themselves in.

As it is, I guess if I'm ever asked to shoot the World Cup in Brazil, I will suffer through my technologically deficient camera.

As for the police, in almost 40 years of shooting, I've had one encounter with a cop, and he asked me if I got a particular shot. Never have I been asked to delete photos. Most police know that's not within their purview.

Neither is a very compelling argument in favor of using Wi-Fi...

 

[Juga]

Why hate on WiFi? Sounds like you be jealous. Is it harming your way of life? Afraid Skynet might go live?

Jealous of technology? Oh yeah, I desire nothing more than having my photos appear online right away or on my computer. There are other things they could work on improving or innovating.

It is an innovation. It appeals to some and others not so much.

 

[Devinhullphoto]

It is an innovation. It appeals to some and others not so much.

I want a gigapixel sensor and refocusing abilities like the Lytro. That's the innovation I desire. I know the gigapixel is a bit of a stretch but maybe by the time my kids are in school. (I don't have kids yet)

 

[Dao]

What about in sports events. Let's say the coming Worldcup in Brazil. A sport photographer take photos during the events and using the wifi to send the photos to his phone in the background in which they all get upload right away to the cloud storage (also happens in the background). So the backend office crew can access the photos right away. They can sort them, process them and publishing them right away online.

What if you take few photos and a police officer stop you and ask you to erase them. If I do not want to waste my valuable time and argue about it, I will say okay and erase them. But I'd already has a copy in the cloud. And it is possible that to have your PC at home/work download them automatically.

If you're going to offer up examples of where it would be beneficial, you should probably choose examples that people will actually find themselves in.

As it is, I guess if I'm ever asked to shoot the World Cup in Brazil, I will suffer through my technologically deficient camera.

As for the police, in almost 40 years of shooting, I've had one encounter with a cop, and he asked me if I got a particular shot. Never have I been asked to delete photos. Most police know that's not within their purview.

Neither is a very compelling argument in favor of using Wi-Fi...

I saw a video one time regarding a sport photographer (not sure if it was olympics or worldcup) that he needed to RUSH back to his laptop in the common room where everybody trying to dump the photos to their laptop and then upload them during break so that the company can publish them right away. And then RUSH back to the field to continue to take photos. During that time inside that room, which was designated for the sport photographers or photo journalists, were packed with people. Looks like everybody were trying to send their work ASAP. If technology allow them to do it easier, why not?

 

[limr]

What about in sports events. Let's say the coming Worldcup in Brazil. A sport photographer take photos during the events and using the wifi to send the photos to his phone in the background in which they all get upload right away to the cloud storage (also happens in the background). So the backend office crew can access the photos right away. They can sort them, process them and publishing them right away online.

What if you take few photos and a police officer stop you and ask you to erase them. If I do not want to waste my valuable time and argue about it, I will say okay and erase them. But I'd already has a copy in the cloud. And it is possible that to have your PC at home/work download them automatically.

If you're going to offer up examples of where it would be beneficial, you should probably choose examples that people will actually find themselves in.

As it is, I guess if I'm ever asked to shoot the World Cup in Brazil, I will suffer through my technologically deficient camera.

As for the police, in almost 40 years of shooting, I've had one encounter with a cop, and he asked me if I got a particular shot. Never have I been asked to delete photos. Most police know that's not within their purview.

Neither is a very compelling argument in favor of using Wi-Fi...

I saw a video one time regarding a sport photographer (not sure if it was olympics or worldcup) that he needed to RUSH back to his laptop in the common room where everybody trying to dump the photos to their laptop and then upload them during break so that the company can publish them right away. And then RUSH back to the field to continue to take photos. During that time inside that room, which was designated for the sport photographers or photo journalists, were packed with people. Looks like everybody were trying to send their work ASAP. If technology allow them to do it easier, why not?

I don't see anything in that post saying that the person in that situation shouldn't have the ability to wirelessly upload pictures instantly. The point was that the example was irrelevant to anyone who is not in that position, and most people won't be in that situation. If I someone really needs it and it will make their jobs easier in a very definite way, then of course it makes sense and there's no reason to not use the technology that is available. But for someone who doesn't HAVE to have photos published IMMEDIATELY, then it's optional and will depend on 'want' rather than 'need.' If someone wants it, then sure, go ahead and get it. If someone neither needs nor wants it, why should they have it?

And goodness, why does it matter so much if someone doesn't want wi-fi on their camera?

 

[TheLost]

Wow, dude, settle down. No need to get the panties in a knot over this. You're getting upset because some people don't share your opinion. Get used to it. It's called "life". You'll understand this once you get out in the real world.

huh? my panties are not knoted even a bit... i'm the one trying to add a bit of levity. This thread is totally cracking me up.

No one here is saying that you shouldn't do with it what you want. Not a single person has said that. You're getting upset because there are those who simply have no need for it. In that regard, their opinion matters, because they know how they shoot, process, upload, etc. You don't know how hey shoot so, with respect to that, your opinion doesn't matter.



I can certainly see where it could have some benefit for certain shooters. I'm not one of those people, and someone going off the emotional deep end like you are isn't likely to change my mind...

Maybe you need to read my first post... my point was "I get flamed (a lot ) for bashing manufactures lack of WiFi support in their products".. we are on page 8 of this thread.

... and how am i going off the emotional deep end? I'm 'debating' my stance that WiFi is a valid tool and shouldn't be shunned as just a 'gimmick'.

 

[Dao]

Yes, you are correct. It is a personal preference.

When I need to shoot 400 items (product photography). It is easier if I can shoot wifi to my PC. Have my lights all ready, place the subject on the table, hit the shutter button on the remote shutter. And review the result if needed. I can do that now with the USB cable and the Canon software that shipped with the camera. But it is more convenience if no cable.

Can I shoot with PC cords for the light? Yes, but I like it better with radio trigger.

 

[Steve5D]

What about in sports events. Let's say the coming Worldcup in Brazil. A sport photographer take photos during the events and using the wifi to send the photos to his phone in the background in which they all get upload right away to the cloud storage (also happens in the background). So the backend office crew can access the photos right away. They can sort them, process them and publishing them right away online.

What if you take few photos and a police officer stop you and ask you to erase them. If I do not want to waste my valuable time and argue about it, I will say okay and erase them. But I'd already has a copy in the cloud. And it is possible that to have your PC at home/work download them automatically.

If you're going to offer up examples of where it would be beneficial, you should probably choose examples that people will actually find themselves in.

As it is, I guess if I'm ever asked to shoot the World Cup in Brazil, I will suffer through my technologically deficient camera.

As for the police, in almost 40 years of shooting, I've had one encounter with a cop, and he asked me if I got a particular shot. Never have I been asked to delete photos. Most police know that's not within their purview.

Neither is a very compelling argument in favor of using Wi-Fi...

I saw a video one time regarding a sport photographer (not sure if it was olympics or worldcup) that he needed to RUSH back to his laptop in the common room where everybody trying to dump the photos to their laptop and then upload them during break so that the company can publish them right away. And then RUSH back to the field to continue to take photos. During that time inside that room, which was designated for the sport photographers or photo journalists, were packed with people. Looks like everybody were trying to send their work ASAP. If technology allow them to do it easier, why not?

Um, okay.

I never said such a person shouldn't be able to do that, so I don't really know what your point is...

 

[Steve5D]

Maybe you need to read my first post... my point was "I get flamed (a lot ) for bashing manufactures lack of WiFi support in their products".. we are on page 8 of this thread.

Can you provide links to where you've been flamed for doing that? I may have missed that obviously large collection of posts...

and how am i going off the emotional deep end? I'm 'debating' my stance that WiFi is a valid tool and shouldn't be shunned as just a 'gimmick'.

You should probably wrap your head around the fact that, for some, it actually is a gimmick. But I don't know that I see too many people saying that you shouldn't avail yourself of what you see as its benefits because they think it's a gimmick...

 

[TheLost]

Can you provide links to where you've been flamed for doing that? I may have missed that obviously large collection of posts...

Here you go... typical post...

My son enjoys the free WiFi at my local McDonalds! He uses it to download larger game and software applications for his Android phone.


WiFi is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah, the short attention-span generation needs to have its stuff NOW. No deferred gratification!!!


An hour or two or three is a looooooong time to go without Facebook status updates!

How about this one..

Why would I want my camera to automatically upload all my photos for a client to see immediately? Why would I want to show clients images before they're edited? I don't do it now and, frankly, there's really no reason to.


I don't have it, nor do I want it. If a camera I want for other reasons has it, and it increases the cost too much, I won't buy it. If I do buy it, I won't use it.

How about this post from you again..? maybe you should take your own advice....

For me, I see Wi-Fi as being as useful on my camera as video.


I don't need it. I don't want it. I don't want to pay for it.


It would be a complete waste for me, just like video.

Quick off topic.. but relevant to the whole 'blow back from new tech': I'm going to quote you here again...

Wow, dude, settle down. No need to get the panties in a knot over this. You're getting upset because some people don't share your opinion. Get used to it. It's called "life". You'll understand this once you get out in the real world.

When YOU get out in the real world maybe you'll understand video is more important to some people then still images.. With 5D in your name i thought you'd understand that.

A question which is still waiting an answer: It was mentioned that you could show clients photos instantly. Why would I want to do that?

I know youth and high school sports shooters that make more sales (aka.. $$$) when they show parents images instantly.