Is this site for people to get valid feedback or for others to get on their high hors

indioli · Jul 30, 2011

I think it's great that people can come on here and get feedback and advice. I personally have received a lot of good feedback and advice from people on here.

However it seems there are a lot of judgemental people on here who feel they have the right to be rude/nasty to people (on a personal level)

This is a BEGINNERS forum, and if people can't give constructive feedback then they shouldn't bother.

My Mum always told me... "if you can't say anything nice, then keep quiet" (joke btw)

Thank you for your time, and I hope you enjoyed my rant!

KmH · Jul 30, 2011

Why is it so many new members just don't get it.

Art is totally judgemental.

e.rose · Jul 30, 2011

I guess it's about time for this thread again, eh?

indioli · Jul 30, 2011

Judging people's work is ok... but judging people who you don't know isn't...
You, KmH are one of the good guys!!

e.rose · Jul 30, 2011

indioli said:
I think it's great that people can come on here and get feedback and advice. I personally have received a lot of good feedback and advice from people on here.

However it seems there are a lot of judgemental people on here who feel they have the right to be rude/nasty to people.

This is a BEGINNERS forum, and if people can't give constructive feedback then they shouldn't bother.

My Mum always told me... "if you can't say anything nice, then keep quiet"

Thank you for your time, and I hope you enjoyed my rant!

Your mum clearly wasn't an artist.

Constructive feedback isn't always POSITIVE feedback.

Constructive NEGATIVE feedback is often times interpreted by newbies as "rude/nasty" comments.

"If you can't say anything nice, then keep quiet", is *not* how one should approach C&C. If you want *CONSTRUCTIVE* feedback, you should ENCOURAGE people to say "not so nice" things... not to shut up.

It's the only way *I've* gotten better over my time here.

Compliments are nice.

Someone handing my ass to me over a photo is better. :biggrin:

kundalini · Jul 30, 2011

Is this site for people to get valid feedback or for others to get on their high hors

Do you mean like Hors d'oeuvre?

Whose been rude to you? C'mon.... cough up a name or two.

nickzou · Jul 30, 2011

I disagree with OP's premise. I joined this forum to improve my skills. Not so we can circle jerk at our "pwetty pictures", there's flickr and Deviantart for that. I've learned a lot more from just reading posts, critiques, and getting critiques myself than I ever did in my photography course. When I post something here and ask for C&C I'm always glad when someone gives me something to build off of.

mrpink · Jul 30, 2011

e.rose said:
I guess it's about time for this thread again, eh?

Yeah... it has been almost a full week.

p!nK

480sparky · Jul 30, 2011

If you're going to ask for C&C, then prepare to either crawl into a corner a cry or grow thicker skin.

If a response such as "It's oversaturated" or "Everything is out of focus" can easily be taken as rudeness. however, it's simply a statement and should be taken as such.

e.rose · Jul 30, 2011

indioli said:
Judging people's work is ok... but judging people who you don't know isn't...
You, KmH are one of the good guys!!

It's the interwebz dude.

There are good guys, neutral guys, assholes, and everyone's got something to say.

For the assholes, make liberal use of the ignore button or just fill this out:

Seriously. Starting threads like this aren't going to accomplish anything. No one is going to change the way they critique just because one (more) person decided to preach about it.

Ignore button... or above form... those are the only options. :biggrin:

nickzou · Jul 30, 2011

480sparky said:
If a response such as "It's oversaturated" or "Everything is out of focus" can easily be taken as rudeness.

How is that rude? That's very informative if the photos are in fact oversaturated and out of focus. "It sucks", now that's rude.

e.rose · Jul 30, 2011

nickzou said:
480sparky said:

If a response such as "It's oversaturated" or "Everything is out of focus" can easily be taken as rudeness.

Click to expand...

How is that rude? That's very informative if the photos are in fact oversaturated and out of focus. "It sucks", now that's rude.

Even *I* still take "it sucks" as valid feedback. I've been told that more times than I can count on both hands. :lol:

Newbies think anything negative is rude because there's NO WAY there can be something wrong with the image after they bought their new, fancy, magical, camera that does all!

480sparky · Jul 30, 2011

nickzou said:
How is that rude? That's very informative if the photos are in fact oversaturated and out of focus. "It sucks", now that's rude.

There are some who equate plain, simple statements that are true with being a rude comment. If they can't get over it from total strangers who merely want to help them, I shudder to think what will happen when paying customers see their results.