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[Bitter Jeweler]

Welcome to the forum, noobs.

If you don't care for your interactions here, don't post.

There ARE other forums.

Complain, complain, complain. Call the wahhhhmbulance.

 

[Compaq]

It's quite obvious that people act differently when being behind the invisible wall of anonymity. I do myself.

Everything I write here are my own opinions.

Art is no science. Anyone can appreciate it, not everyone can understand it. Not anyone can learn it. I hope I'm one of the people who can. I wrote a term paper in philosophy in which I touched upon what I believe "talent" is - and I believe it is an intrinsic property.
Let me define "talent" as a predisposition to learn something more easily than most others, or learning quicker than others. Talents can be "deep" or "superficial". With "deep" I mean that the person with a deep talent seem to be exceedingly better at something than most, whereas a "superficial" talent is just grasping things faster on a short term basis.

So, back to my point. If someone is a talented artist, then, according to me, he/she is genetically predispositioned to communicating visually (with regard to photography/painting), or easily understands how visual elements effect our emotions.
I have always been very quick to grasp practical things... how to do stuff. Use the camera: not very hard for me. Learning to use photoshop: I am learning quickly. Learning to play volleyball: I learn quickly. Understanding how to use the camera settings to evoke emotions: it takes time for me.

Once something starts to touch upon abstract concepts, I must sit down and think about it. I remember last year when I was taking a Calculus course at the University, the maths turned much more abstract when dealing with precise definitions of limits. I had to sit down and really think about it, trying to figure it out in my mind. Doing things, such as optimizing or calculating defined integrals, comes more natural to me.

I am sure we can reduce certain artistic guidelines into mathematical expressions, but art is not science. Of course, defining what "science" is has been attempted for over 100 years. I can mention names such as Popper, Feyerabend and Kuhn. Precisely defining "science" is a philosophical matter, and should be approached carefully. I won't go into that. If you're interested, read up on the major theories and make up your own mind.

According to me, art isn't science. It is not something everyone can master, but something everyone can appreciate. We humans are spiritual creatures, and seek meaning through other means than reason, whether that is meaning through religion or meaning through art.

Not checked for typos.

 

[eUgalde13]

Holy crap Batman this thread keeps growing??? From page one the message was as clear as number seven:

I do not care if someone says my photo is crap!! I want feedback on how to improve it after they have said it's crap![...] People's comments about my images DO NOT offend me![...] I just like to get feedback on how to make it better.Shall I repeat myself again?????

 

[Quentin_Moyer]

Meh lets all get back to reality. This has all got pretty pointless.

But....but...but....

I MADE A POINT!

 

[vtf]

Wow, I'm speechless. A thread that has gone in circles and will accomplish nothing in th end. Who here has seen this at least once a month please like my post.

Thank You for your participation.

 

[sleist]

It's all

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I don't know why it's

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It's just

 

[The_Traveler]

It is interesting to me how many people who are relatively new to the place talk with great insistence on wanting things one way act completely the other way in their own threads. The one that pops out at me is VonStarrPhoto.

While he/she wants people to comment and tell him/her what about his/her work is good or crap, when these same people asked him/her to do some work for himself/herself about lighting stuff, well that ended up badly.

Unfortunately, the people who can give good c/c are generally people who also know a lot technically and there is just some finite amount of effort they'll put out.
So either go along with how they want to help or else you'll cut yourself off from what help they can give.

Do VonStarrPhoto and others, after they've seemingly done their best to insult those who can give them the best help, think that these same people will come back and spend time with them later on?

You make your own bed, fellows, and you'll be lying in it with other newbies by yourself.

 

[Kbarredo]

You make your own bed, fellows, and you'll be lying in it with other newbies by yourself.

Thats an oxymoron. How can you be lying with others by yourself. So what im gathering is that it is not ok to complain about rude people. Although it is ok to complain about people who complain about rude people.
Thats like a smoker saying its their right to smoke wherever they want. At the same time saying that non smokers are not allowed to insult them for their unhealthy lifestyle.

 

[indioli]

You make your own bed, fellows, and you'll be lying in it with other newbies by yourself.

Thats an oxymoron. How can you be lying with others by yourself. So what im gathering is that it is not ok to complain about rude people. Although it is ok to complain about people who complain about rude people.
Thats like a smoker saying its their right to smoke wherever they want. At the same time saying that non smokers are not allowed to insult them for their unhealthy lifestyle.

Kbarredo, you hit the nail on the head!

 

[LaFoto]

Well, hasn't the time come for this thread to be done with?
Feel free to start a new whining thread at any time. We might even dig out the Whining Forum again, I know it is still there, somewhere... :roll: