Is this site for people to get valid feedback or for others to get on their high hors

[vonstarrphoto]

They don't get it Vonstarr, they clearly can't READ properly and are just going off on a tangent.
Half of 'em are just arguing with each other. Lol!

I do not care if someone says my photo is crap!! I want feedback on how to improve it after they have said it's crap! Is that SO frickin hard for you people to understand?
The annoying thing is, you will now carry on about how my skin needs to be thicker... blah blah blah.
People's comments about my images DO NOT offend me! I don't care if you don't like my picture, because I'm not taking it for you. I just like to get feedback on how to make it better.
Shall I repeat myself again?????

Well said

 

[pgriz]

Well, if someone told me my photo was crap, I'd ask them what they would do to improve it. That creates the potential for a dialogue. Again, it also depends on whose judgement I'm listening to. If it is someone I admire for their skill at the discipline I'm trying to work on, then I'll be pretty receptive. If it was someone who really had no clue... then why even bother responding.

People who truly want to learn also give plenty of clues as to what they are trying to do and what they tried. Something along the lines of... "this was the idea I had, this is how I decided to carry it out, and this is the result. What else could/should I do to improve on this?" I don't remember any query posed in this way ever getting bad responses. On the other hand, a posting that says "I really like this photo - don't you think it's fantastic?" is not really asking for C&C, but for a pat on the back. Eh, maybe they will get it if it is really "fantastic", but if it isn't, then not so much.

 

[Scoody]

To be honest, I would much prefer people tell me that my photo is a piece of crap rather than lie and say it's good. If it's bad, I want to know so I don't do that same thing again.

She doesn't need someone telling her her photo is crap, how can you improve on a photo if no help is offered just a retarded half hearted response?!

How about by starting out with, "Here is what you can do to improve that crappy photo and tune your nonexistent skills? Here is a photo my dog took and it is better than yours. Let me show you why" Like that?

Oh by the way have you guys seen that photo blog that is updated daily a cat? Pretty cool.

 

[vonstarrphoto]

To be honest, I would much prefer people tell me that my photo is a piece of crap rather than lie and say it's good. If it's bad, I want to know so I don't do that same thing again.

She doesn't need someone telling her her photo is crap, how can you improve on a photo if no help is offered just a retarded half hearted response?!

How about by starting out with, "Here is what you can do to improve that crappy photo and tune your nonexistent skills? Here is a photo my dog took and it is better than yours. Let me show you why" Like that?

Oh by the way have you guys seen that photo blog that is updated daily a cat? Pretty cool.

SMART A**

 

[vonstarrphoto]

Well, if someone told me my photo was crap, I'd ask them what they would do to improve it. That creates the potential for a dialogue. Again, it also depends on whose judgement I'm listening to. If it is someone I admire for their skill at the discipline I'm trying to work on, then I'll be pretty receptive. If it was someone who really had no clue... then why even bother responding.

People who truly want to learn also give plenty of clues as to what they are trying to do and what they tried. Something along the lines of... "this was the idea I had, this is how I decided to carry it out, and this is the result. What else could/should I do to improve on this?" I don't remember any query posed in this way ever getting bad responses. On the other hand, a posting that says "I really like this photo - don't you think it's fantastic?" is not really asking for C&C, but for a pat on the back. Eh, maybe they will get it if it is really "fantastic", but if it isn't, then not so much.

I have never really seen someone post saying they think their photo is amazing, you can always improve in photography.. So this comment is invalid.. yawn

 

[helloyo53]

To be honest, I would much prefer people tell me that my photo is a piece of crap rather than lie and say it's good. If it's bad, I want to know so I don't do that same thing again.

She doesn't need someone telling her her photo is crap, how can you improve on a photo if no help is offered just a retarded half hearted response?!

Well obviously I would want some sort of feedback too after saying it's crap. But the point is that I'd like for people to tell me that my photo is bad and tell me how to improve it rather than them saying it's fine when it's bad.

 

[jwbryson1]

I hear you Indioli. There are those on this board who offer true CC and others who are on here seemingly just to be pricks. Probably more of the latter. This forum is lame.

 

[Scoody]

She doesn't need someone telling her her photo is crap, how can you improve on a photo if no help is offered just a retarded half hearted response?!

How about by starting out with, "Here is what you can do to improve that crappy photo and tune your nonexistent skills? Here is a photo my dog took and it is better than yours. Let me show you why" Like that?

Oh by the way have you guys seen that photo blog that is updated daily a cat? Pretty cool.

SMART A**

Seriously. All the photos on that blog are taken by a cat. His composition is crap (I would tell him so if he ever posted them up here), and he knows nothing about white balance, but for a cat, not too shabby.

 

[vonstarrphoto]

How about by starting out with, "Here is what you can do to improve that crappy photo and tune your nonexistent skills? Here is a photo my dog took and it is better than yours. Let me show you why" Like that?

Oh by the way have you guys seen that photo blog that is updated daily a cat? Pretty cool.

SMART A**

Seriously. All the photos on that blog are taken by a cat. His composition is crap (I would tell him so if he ever posted them up here), and he knows nothing about white balance, but for a cat, not too shabby.

Umm OK anyway.........

 

[indioli]

dogs taking pictures!! pah

 

[vonstarrphoto]

Well, if someone told me my photo was crap, I'd ask them what they would do to improve it. That creates the potential for a dialogue. Again, it also depends on whose judgement I'm listening to. If it is someone I admire for their skill at the discipline I'm trying to work on, then I'll be pretty receptive. If it was someone who really had no clue... then why even bother responding.

People who truly want to learn also give plenty of clues as to what they are trying to do and what they tried. Something along the lines of... "this was the idea I had, this is how I decided to carry it out, and this is the result. What else could/should I do to improve on this?" I don't remember any query posed in this way ever getting bad responses. On the other hand, a posting that says "I really like this photo - don't you think it's fantastic?" is not really asking for C&C, but for a pat on the back. Eh, maybe they will get it if it is really "fantastic", but if it isn't, then not so much.

I agree that if someone who was amazing and that I admired was offering advice and said it was crap, I would listen if they then offered decent advice but if it just some idiot with a big mouth and lame pictures of his dog then I would be upset that they felt they could judge someone when their own work is mundane.....

 

[Scoody]

maybe scoody should change his name to scooby... doo... and then spout about dogs taking pictures!! pah

I use the username "Scoody" because my grandson would never say, "Scooby Doo" when he was a toddler. He always said, "Scoody Boo."

 

[Quentin_Moyer]

They don't get it Vonstarr, they clearly can't READ properly and are just going off on a tangent.
Half of 'em are just arguing with each other. Lol!

I do not care if someone says my photo is crap!! I want feedback on how to improve it after they have said it's crap! Is that SO frickin hard for you people to understand?
The annoying thing is, you will now carry on about how my skin needs to be thicker... blah blah blah.
People's comments about my images DO NOT offend me! I don't care if you don't like my picture, because I'm not taking it for you. I just like to get feedback on how to make it better.
Shall I repeat myself again?????

Well said

I don't understand why you're agreeing with her after disagreeing with Misscream earlier on pretty much the same subject

NO it is a completely irrelevant and un useful sentence that doesn't offer any technical help which is what was asked.... Oh My goodness how hard is it to read?!

C&C= Critique and Comments
I dont like your photo = A comment.

Well either way it is isn't helpful just rude. Lalalalala I could go on forever anyway bye

Talking in circles?

 

[vonstarrphoto]

Meh lets all get back to reality. This has all got pretty pointless.

 

[frisii]

Meh lets all get back to reality. This has all got pretty pointless.

These kinds of thread usually are.