Larger sensor just a luxury?

[EchoingWhisper]

So all along "same lens" for EW meant comparing a 50mm DX to a 75mm FX lens ?!?

No wonder this was going nowhere...

I don't think I've said 'same lens'. I said 'lens with the same size'. Maybe sometimes I did forget to write it, but most of the time, I've written it as lens with the same size.

 

[Kolia]

I'm not here to split hair any more than we already have Micheal.

For future reference, when talking about lens, everybody assumes "same" or "same size" means same focal length. If I asked someone to hand me my 200mm, I very much doubt he or she will go fetch a telescope or start measuring lens diameter instead of grabbing the 55-200mm with a 55mm filter ring !

 

[Helen B]

I'm not here to split hair any more than we already have Micheal.

For future reference, when talking about lens, everybody assumes "same" or "same size" means same focal length. If I asked someone to hand me my 200mm, I very much doubt he or she will go fetch a telescope or start measuring lens diameter instead of grabbing the 55-200mm with a 55mm filter ring !

Kolia,

The issue of what EW meant was cleared up about 76 posts ago, if not earlier, so it is a bit puzzling why you are bringing it up so late. You know, there might even be posts by you in this thread that aren't 100% accurate and clear.

Best,
Helen

 

[Kolia]

It wasn't clear for me Helen.

I had to word it differently I suppose.

 

[EchoingWhisper]

I'm not here to split hair any more than we already have Micheal.

For future reference, when talking about lens, everybody assumes "same" or "same size" means same focal length. If I asked someone to hand me my 200mm, I very much doubt he or she will go fetch a telescope or start measuring lens diameter instead of grabbing the 55-200mm with a 55mm filter ring !

Kolia,

The issue of what EW meant was cleared up about 76 posts ago, if not earlier, so it is a bit puzzling why you are bringing it up so late. You know, there might even be posts by you in this thread that aren't 100% accurate and clear.

Best,
Helen

Yep, when I've started using the terms you introduced.

 

[Dao]

But why Full frame is luxury?

 

[2WheelPhoto]

But why Full frame is luxury?

14 pages and I'm still trying to figure out the luxury value too

 

[EchoingWhisper]

The resolution is the luxury.

 

[2WheelPhoto]

The resolution is the luxury.

No, the resolution is the necessity for me. I still want to know the luxury =)

 

[mjhoward]

Full frame doesn't always mean more resolution anyway. Look at the D4 and the A77.

 

[EchoingWhisper]

Full frame doesn't always mean more resolution anyway. Look at the D4 and the D7K.

Sensor resolution and real resolution is a big difference. D7K has higher sensor resolution but it doesn't mean their respective equivalent lenses also has the same resolution. A larger sensor makes it easier and/or cheaper to make a higher quality lens with higher resolution with the same entrance pupil diameter.

 

[Kolia]

The jumps from sensors to lens and back are hard to follow.

I always thought that resolution = pixel count. Which doesn't necessarily mean better IQ.

Now the lens factors in into resolution ?

I'm not trying to be picky. Simply trying to keep up as a newbie.

 

[jake337]

In what respect other than resolution?

I guess it depends on personal taste. But I would like a wider FOV, at closer distances to subjects, with greater magnification.

Wider field of view? You could always get the equivalent focal length in smaller formats. Closer distance to subjects? You could always use the equivalent focal length. Greater magnification? This, I don't know. Need to ask Helen B.

Yeah, but what negative effects on the human form are present when using shorter focal lengths, at closer distances?

So you have two setups at "normal" or "standard" focal lengths. One 35mm format(50mm lens), the other 8x10 format(210mm lens).

Standing 10-15 feet from your subject which would you prefer?

I prefer the look of large format. Is it a luxury? No. It's personal preference or a necessity of your client.

 

[o hey tyler]

I guess it depends on personal taste. But I would like a wider FOV, at closer distances to subjects, with greater magnification.

Wider field of view? You could always get the equivalent focal length in smaller formats. Closer distance to subjects? You could always use the equivalent focal length. Greater magnification? This, I don't know. Need to ask Helen B.

Yeah, but what negative effects on the human form are present when using shorter focal lengths, at closer distances?

So you have two setups at "normal" or "standard" focal lengths. One 35mm format(50mm lens), the other 8x10 format(210mm lens).

Standing 10-15 feet from your subject which would you prefer?

I prefer the look of large format. Is it a luxury? No. It's personal preference or a necessity of your client.

I guess since EW hasn't shot wider format, it's harder for him to visualize this. I can see why that would be so. I felt the same way while I was shooting an APS-C camera. My mind changed once I changed formats.

 

[jake337]

Is it a luxury?
Another question one could ask themselves is:
If the price if a medium or large format digital system was equal to 35mm or smaller digital systems, what system would you choose.

I think it would depend on your subject, right?