lenses????

Ptyler22 · Jun 29, 2008

Phazan said:
If you want to pursue photography, consider it as an investment for life. $1,500 to start out doing something you will love for the rest of your life is pretty cheap when you think about it...
Tell your dad that.
And If you're sure photograhy is what you want to do, and you want some good equiptment, don't settle for something you don't want..If you are capable of getting a 40d, and you want a 40d, get a 40d. Or if you want an xsi, get a xsi. It sounds like you want a good SLR, and not an A200..
It's nice to just get the better one, ya know?

Ya I thought the same thing, I said it's a learning process and an investment in my future.
One of his arguments against buying it was that I will have "big education expenses" coming up in the future. That's in 2 years, I will have plenty of time to make that money back, I will probably make that back over the summer I have 3 jobs!. I also think that this investment in my future is a an educational device if you think about it, I will learn alot about photography, and cameras, and through the process I will meet people and maybe even get some buisness out of it. And on top of that I will have fun doing it. But we'll see how it goes. Thanks

Ptyler22 · Jun 29, 2008

If I were to get the 40d, do you think the kit lens (28-135 3.5-5.6) would be ok for sports or would it be best to sell that for like $450 unopened and get a sigma 28-70mm F2.8 for $289 then I have a little more $ left over and I will have a faster lens. Or do you think the kit is fast enough and fine for sports? thanks

Rogan · Jun 29, 2008

depending on what sports but IMO neither 70 will not be long enough at all

and 135 will be pushing it, ideally you want 200 at least, but u definately want F4 or higher at the long end

Ptyler22 · Jun 29, 2008

Rogan said:
depending on what sports but IMO neither 70 will not be long enough at all

and 135 will be pushing it, ideally you want 200 at least, but u definately want F4 or higher at the long end

Well for track I know I used my friends E-500 with the 14-42mm kit lens, and olympus's are 2x focal multiplier so that would be = to 84mm but the 40d has 1.6x so it would be 112mm. with the olympus I wanted a little bit more zoom. do you think the 28-70mm would be ok for track or should I try and squeeze in a 70-300mm as well?

penfold1 · Jun 29, 2008

I have solved your problem!

Buy these three things.

canon rebel xti body
canon 70-200mm f/4.0 L
canon 50mm f/1.8

Should be near $1000 and fit your requirements and your price range as best as possible.

Ptyler22 · Jun 29, 2008

If I've got the lens right, it's around $1200 alone, if I have the lens right

Overread · Jun 29, 2008

wrong lens - there this is lens he means;
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-70-200m...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1214777085&sr=8-2
and the camera (body only
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Digital...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1214777109&sr=8-2
and the cheap (but good) 50mm
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-50mm-1-...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1214777143&sr=8-1

amazon total: $1248.94
and there is rebate of $40 on the long lens.

Rogan · Jun 29, 2008

i know ur frustration but i can see where ur coming from, $1200 is alot to spend first time onna hobby

my investment is going to be a mere $500 for now!

Ptyler22 · Jun 29, 2008

Thanks alot Overread and penfold1, that might be a little too much $$ but thanks I will still consider it. That lens looks amazing.

Or how about this, it won't give me the 200mm, but close. Do you reccomend F4 rather than F2.8 for a long lens like that?

http://www.warehousedeals.com/Sigma...froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=froogle

Overread · Jun 29, 2008

well for sports a wider aperture (thus lower f number) on the lens is desirable as sometimes you might be shooting indoors or in poor lighting conditions and being able to use f2.8 (or one stop down as full wide open most lenses are a little soft) allows you to get more light into the camera without upping ISO and thus getting more noise into a shot.
I don't know how good the sigma 50-150mm is though

Ptyler22 · Jun 29, 2008

O crap it's out of stock.

Ptyler22 · Jun 29, 2008

WOw why is the silver body $519 and the black $599? O probably because nobody want the silver ones?

Rogan · Jun 29, 2008

cos the silver is fugly

F4 is alright for sports as long as its F4 the whole way, eg, short and long ends of its range, F2.8 is obviously better but theres nothing wrong with F4

kundalini · Jun 29, 2008

This may have been asked already (I skipped page 2), but have you ever been to a camera shop and actually put the various camera bodies discussed so far in your hands? That should be done before you get your heart (or stubborness :biggrin:

) set on any particular body or brand. I had done all my research and was going to buy a Canon. That was until I held and played around with a Nikon. It fit my hands better.

I will agree with everybody else that has emphatically cried out to you that the best investment is in your lenses. Pick up a cheap body for now and slap a fast piece of glass on it. Hell, go out and buy a used body, but get the good glass.

One more thing, in.... oh say... *counts on fingers & toes* ...maybe thirty + years from now, you will realize the your father was a lot smarter than you thought. :lol:

My 2¢ worth.

Ptyler22 · Jun 29, 2008

kundalini said:
This may have been asked already (I skipped page 2), but have you ever been to a camera shop and actually put the various camera bodies discussed so far in your hands? That should be done before you get your heart (or stubborness ) set on any particular body or brand. I had done all my research and was going to buy a Canon. That was until I held and played around with a Nikon. It fit my hands better.

I will agree with everybody else that has emphatically cried out to you that the best investment is in your lenses. Pick up a cheap body for now and slap a fast piece of glass on it. Hell, go out and buy a used body, but get the good glass.

One more thing, in.... oh say... *counts on fingers & toes* ...maybe thirty + years from now, you will realize the your father was a lot smarter than you thought.

My 2¢ worth.

Ya I went to a camera store yesterday, the E-420 was way to small for me, the d40 was a little small the rebels felt Ok, but they felt plasticy and creaky like most said, the d80 was comfortable in my hands and the 40d was the most comfortable by far.
With the 40d I figure I could get the 28-135mm kit lens that comes with it and then the lens for $450, I see the new ones from the store going for $500, do you think if I don't open it I could sell it for $450? My dad doesn't believe I could, he thinks that the most I could sell it for is $250. Then if I sold it for $450 or even $400 I could get a sigma 28-70mm F2.8 and that wouldn't be quite enough zoom but I could find a cheap 70-200 or 70-300 and get one of those too. How much do you think I could sell the kit lens for? Do you think the 28-70 F2.8 is fast enough for track shots? Thanks a lot

Also on amazon they have 4gb cf cards for 23.95, they have 43x write speed. Is that going to be fast enough to keep up with either a 40d or 30d? what speeds are your cards?