lenses????

[Mystwalker]

AND I AM TELLING YOU THAT CONTINUOUS FPS IS NOT THAT IMPORTANT, DAMN IT!!!

Listen to the man!! He can't be any more obvious.

It's mostly about the glass, and lots of practice.

Sports require fast glass (lens with small f/xx number such as f/2.8). Long lens that has small f/xx number (called fast glass) are EXPENSIVE. Lens with constant f/xx number is even more expensive.

Lens pricing have pretty much remained the same. Camera bodies drop in price. That 40D you want today, you can buy in 3-4 years for 50%. Lens will depreciate less.

Since you are just starting, AND you are on a budget, go for an XT/XTi, or used 20D/30D. Spend the rest on lens. I doubt 40D will be significantly better to justify the sacrifice for lesser lens.

If you can find one of those used cameras for around $500-600, I would recommend the 70-200 f/4L which costs a little under $600. It's an "L" (Canon's top of line).

 

[Ptyler22]

so how does this package look?
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pho/732057527.html
http://www.digitalfotoclub.com/sc/from-froogle.asp?id=964599880&rf=froogle&dfdate=6_25_2008
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3265&navigator=2 (found this on 47th street photo for $79)
(2 of these.) http://www.adorama.com/KGCF2GB.html
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000YA1DS4/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=photo.

the total will be about $740. Assuming that craigslist ad is still for sale.
I know the glass isn't the best but I don't think I want to spend that much for the 2.8 its just a little too much and I don't think my parents would let me spend that much, but is this ok?

 

[Ptyler22]

Or how about this package, and I would just use the 28-70mm for now and then maybe for christmas I would get the 70-300mm

http://www.adorama.com/ICA30DR.html
(2 of these.) http://www.adorama.com/KGCF2GB.html
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...e=UTF8&s=photo.
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/len...65&navigator=2 (found this on 47th street photo for $79)
the total would be $805

 

[Ptyler22]

cause ideally I would like the 30d body, but it cuts into my lens budget a little too much.

 

[Ptyler22]

Or should I get this with the XTi and not get the 70-300mm
($289 on 47th street photo)
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3264&navigator=2

 

[Mystwalker]

I've never used one myself, but have read positive things about this lens: Canon 55-250 f/4-5.6 ... URL below.

I still recommend the 70-200 f/4L, but that is almost twice as much as the 55-250.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=0&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=jsp%2FRootPage.jsp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t&shs=55-250&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=jsp%2FRootPage.jsp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t&Go.x=26&Go.y=19

 

[Ptyler22]

Is the 55-250 worth the extra $100 and the 50mm less on the open end?

 

[Ptyler22]

and some 50mm 1.8 with any 1 lens? which seems like the best package? I will moostly be shooting track meets, since I am already at them. I used my friends E-500 at one of them and he had the 14-42mm on it and I wanted just a liitle more zoom for track so idk if that helps or whatnot but thanks a bunch guys.

 

[Phazan]

Why shouldn't he get what he wants??

I wanted a 40d over an XTI, so I saved up for a 40d. He can get cheap glass now, and save for good glass later. :thumbup: My plan was to use a cheap crap lens for a couple months while I got used to the camera. Then by the time I had the camera all figured out, I would buy something nice...However at the store my dad offered to buy me a nice lens that day if I payed him back. (And I did pay him every penny back a month later)
If someone can save $1,500, I think they are pretty capable of saving more down the road.
We all know it's cheaper in the long run to buy the better stuff anyway..You won't have to upgrade with a 40d for a looong time

 

[Ptyler22]

Ya, I wish I could But at the thought of it, I asked my dad what he thought and he flipped a **** and told me that I don't know anything about cameras and stuff like that (even thought I have been researching them for about 2 months now, and he hardly knows how to use a point and shoot). He also told he that it was ridiculous to spend $1000 on the most expensive camera in the world lol. I told him that it was not at aaalllll the most expensive. He also told me no one else unless THE top photographers in the world spend $1000 on a camera. Shows how much he knows. And he told me that he could have easily spent that much money and bought me that camera (which is true he could have spent like $20,000 on a camera for me if he wanted too. lol) but he said that it's not worth it to him to spend $1000 and for me a quote "poor" kid should never spend that much on a camera because it's a waste....

But thats just the short but not very short version. Basically he said no F#&$*(g way. But I wish I could get a 40d, it's definatley worth it since they compete with cameras 2x the cost. But ya I agree with a 40d but the rebel isn't all bad, especially after looking at shots people have taken with them.

 

[Ptyler22]

Why shouldn't he get what he wants??

I wanted a 40d over an XTI, so I saved up for a 40d. He can get cheap glass now, and save for good glass later. :thumbup: My plan was to use a cheap crap lens for a couple months while I got used to the camera. Then by the time I had the camera all figured out, I would buy something nice...However at the store my dad offered to buy me a nice lens that day if I payed him back. (And I did pay him every penny back a month later)
If someone can save $1,500, I think they are pretty capable of saving more down the road.
We all know it's cheaper in the long run to buy the better stuff anyway..You won't have to upgrade with a 40d for a looong time

Ya I wish my dad was like that. My mom would probably do that but she would never go against what my dad said, so its just up to what he says. I have $1200 cash on hand right now and $1500 in the bank so I could definatley afford it. Oh ya, my dad said a couple months ago that he really thinks I am good at photography and I should pursue it. So much for that when I am trying to pursue it and he just slams me down. :x

 

[Ptyler22]

Buuut anyway. How bout them packages? lol

 

[CloseToGermany]

haha, I really am spending waay more money than a 16 year old should on a camera but I want to pursue this and really want the most bang for the buck posible. I am open to all slr cameras btw. lol

I disagree, I bought my Rebel XSi just a couple weeks ago with the 18-55 IS lens; I just got the 50mm F/1.8 today. Although I started out on a Rebel K2 with a kit lens, I think the XT is going to be a great camera for you to learn on. Ultimately, if I were you, I would save more money to get a lens that will perform the way you need it to; track doesnt start again for a while anyway, right?

 

[Ptyler22]

I disagree, I bought my Rebel XSi just a couple weeks ago with the 18-55 IS lens; I just got the 50mm F/1.8 today. Although I started out on a Rebel K2 with a kit lens, I think the XT is going to be a great camera for you to learn on. Ultimately, if I were you, I would save more money to get a lens that will perform the way you need it to; track doesnt start again for a while anyway, right?

Ya well it starts in the beggining of September. Well Cross country does anyway. But my second most common thing to shoot is cars and over the summer I go to lots of car shows and there is a really nice racetrack that me and my dad go to in connecticut (Limerock) and Over the summer I can shoot those things with the camera. The carshows are less demanding for timing and stuff since the cars are stationary so I can get used to the camera and then shoot XC and track when it starts in the fall.

 

[Ptyler22]

Sorry for going against what you guys said but I think I am going to go with the 30d and I will spend $120 on a lens JUST FOR NOW. This way I can get a decent all around lens and see what I really want to do with it and then I will get more specialized lenses when I feel like I know what exactly I want to do. Now the question is. What is the best all around lens (keep in mind I will still be doing mostly sports) for $120 or under?

A couple I found, but idk if these are good all around lenses.

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3265&navigator=2 ($79) + Maybe a cheap 50mm?

http://www.adorama.com/CA2890AF3U.html
+ a cheap 50mm?
Other ideas?
Thanks alot guys, I apreciate it.