Living in USA/Canada pros and cons?

[gsgary]

American citizens travel overseas less than others, perhaps, is due to three obvious factors - a huge diversity of culture and geography right here in the US, the enormous physical and economic barriers of the Atlantic or Pacific and the language barriers.

This is very true. Most Americans, if given a free trip, would love to go overseas. But in reality the cost for me to fly my family of 3 to London roundtrip is $3000. That is just airfare, factor in all the other stuff and you are looking at close to $10k for a week's vacation. On the flip side $3k stateside will get you a very nice week's stay at a resort.

Considering that most american's are cash strapped as it is, it makes it hard to travel overseas.

There are much better places to go than London I was there this weekend visiting the mother in law and the place it a **** hole

 

[runnah]

American citizens travel overseas less than others, perhaps, is due to three obvious factors - a huge diversity of culture and geography right here in the US, the enormous physical and economic barriers of the Atlantic or Pacific and the language barriers.

This is very true. Most Americans, if given a free trip, would love to go overseas. But in reality the cost for me to fly my family of 3 to London roundtrip is $3000. That is just airfare, factor in all the other stuff and you are looking at close to $10k for a week's vacation. On the flip side $3k stateside will get you a very nice week's stay at a resort.

Considering that most american's are cash strapped as it is, it makes it hard to travel overseas.

There are much better places to go than London I was there this weekend visiting the mother in law and the place it a **** hole

I picked it because it had the most transatlantic flights.

I have no desire to visit large European cities. I'd much rather putter around the countryside.

 

[mmaria]

I'm kind of lost in this thread now

going to find myself

 

[runnah]

I'm kind of lost in this thread now

going to find myself

We established that Americans like to spank Canadian beaver.

 

[bribrius]

I'm kind of lost in this thread now

going to find myself

We established that Americans like to spank Canadian beaver.

I think singling out just Canadian beavers is wrong.

 

[robbins.photo]

It is saddening to see the depth of ignorance Americans have of other countries.

Huh.. see I always thought it was sad to see over generalizations like this one posted on the internet in a capricious nod to a rather silly stereotype. Having lived in multiple countries I can attest to the fact that very few people I met overseas had a clue as to what America was actually like either. I'd say the misconceptions I ran into there were much greater than the misconceptions most American's I know have about the other countries I've lived in.

To the OP, the biggest advantage to the US? We say about, not aboot. May not seem like much but believe me after a while it will start to make a difference.

 

[mmaria]

hi robbins!

haven't seen you here for a while

 

[robbins.photo]

hi robbins!

haven't seen you here for a while

I've been healing up from a bit of deceleration trauma caused by a motorized conveyance.

Or in plain English I was involved in a car accident recently. Nothing terribly serious but I haven't been able to get out and shoot, or even get on the internet much. Mostly just laying about and rediscovering just how really bad Television truly is.. I mean I remember it being pretty bad, but I swear somehow it got worse in the last few years. Truly mindboggling that.. lol

 

[limr30 3]

Glad you're okay, robbins!

I just read this article. Seems appropriate for this thread:
Disgusted by Smoking, Outraged by a Plan to Ban Tobacco

 

[Gary A.]

For that, you get a big red X.

lol
I start from the premise of rights don't exist. you are born into a level of freedom allowed to you by others most often supported by state. Rights themselves are a levy of mans imagination as is governing law. Countries do not engage in battles of rights but sheer will and force. Hence the reason supposed international laws and rights are consistently broken and the victor not held accountable. They aren't real. The rights you speak of are undeniable as natural law, and are not rights at all. What you have declared here is that your freedom has been dissected to that of rights, were all taken from you and you settled for what they allowed you to have back. You should have no concern of one tapping your phone or entering your homestead anyway, never mind appreciating a supposed protection from it. If such a transgression arose you should have every ability to defend such transgression with your own use of force if need be. Do you? The proposing of most of what you mention you are protected from are self inflictions derived of the empowerment of state. Without such empowerment the fear would not be there. It is the same empowerment you expect to protect you from itself.
The bill of rights was a allowance of return, not a protection from. which means they were not guaranteed as they were already conceived as potentially taken. From birth your existence is that of what you make and can defend. But as it was the greatest fear of a individual is anarchy and insecurity. So they often are willing to settle in parlay over supposed rights vs. facing the unknown.

I disagree with almost all of this, and also think you've got some contradictions in there.

But I'm also not going to go into any further, mostly because I don't feel like it, but also because it strays too far beyond the scope of this thread and has little bearing on the practical advantages or disadvantages of living here or in Canada.

Which was sorta my point. Apart from climate and geography there isn't a big 'practical' between living in Canada or the US. But there is a fundamental/theoretical difference between who Americans are and where Americans came from (as in how we became who we are) and who Canadians are and where Canadians came from.

Most of us don't have much of a choice in choosing that aspect of our citizenship. Maria (aka Marija) does. That aspect may or maynot be important to Maria/Marija ... I just felt it was important to point it out and let her decide significance of history and political theory/application.

Gary

 

[Designer]

I'm kind of lost in this thread now

Well, see, we were going to invite you to come live with us, but then we decided that we need to go visit Europe. Maybe all of it.

 

[limr30 3]

I'm kind of lost in this thread now

going to find myself

I don't blame you. It got off-track.

 

[runnah]

Glad you're okay, robbins!

I just read this article. Seems appropriate for this thread:
Disgusted by Smoking, Outraged by a Plan to Ban Tobacco

 

[astroNikon]

hi robbins!

haven't seen you here for a while

I've been healing up from a bit of deceleration trauma caused by a motorized conveyance.

Or in plain English I was involved in a car accident recently. Nothing terribly serious but I haven't been able to get out and shoot, or even get on the internet much. Mostly just laying about and rediscovering just how really bad Television truly is.. I mean I remember it being pretty bad, but I swear somehow it got worse in the last few years. Truly mindboggling that.. lol

Yes, and we spoke of how other countries relie upon our tv to dissiminate what US culture is like.

Sorry to hear of the conveyance. Hope you get well quickly.

 

[Rick50]

Marija,
I'm wondering if what you really need is just a place to lay low from certain types being on your trail or maybe you just need a place to hang till you get on your feet again. I have a place for you. You can come stay at the Hotel California for free. It is a secluded place up in the mountains and no one would bother you.

I think it's comfy enough.

The trail in looks pretty good and you could bring your horse.
In fact you should bring it so you can get to the watering hole.

I'll get Cisco to stop by and cook. He gives big hugs and a good smack on your cheek.
Plus he makes the world's best Carne Asada.

Then for your anxiety I have the perfect answer. This will also help you sleep at night.

Just thought I would offer you an alternative to this fast and crazy living.