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I had a discussion with one of the more knowledgeable members on the merits of LR vs C1 rather than hijack a thread any further, I opened this one, because it's an interesting debate that needs further discussion not only for my understanding but for others who might be in the market to purchase either. On this thread, it will be limited to LR vs C1 only. If I have time I'll open another one on the C1 vs PS.
In that thread @Ysarex said the following " C1 also uses a layer model. The two changes I made to that file were to open an already existing layer that contained a mask for the sky and I decided to darken the sky a little more. The big change was to create a new luminosity layer for the shadow area of the image and set a different WB for only the shadows (something LR can't do by the way)." I respect Joe on his knowledge on the technical side, but I'm going to disagree with the last part of this. The relatively recent addition of masking/layers in LR has changed the playing field considerably on what you can do non-destructively.
This first image is a completely unedited file of a shot from the Smokies.
Going back to Joe's statement "The two changes I made to that file were to open an already existing layer that contained a mask for the sky and I decided to darken the sky a little more. The big change was to create a new luminosity layer for the shadow area of the image and set a different WB for only the shadows". Here is the above shot edited as I normally would, except with a color range mask, I could have used a luminosity mask but it would have required additional manual adjustment with a brush on the foreground, because of the similarity in the luminosity of the sky and foreground. I darkened only the sky, and changed the temperature of only the shadows of the clouds. It's exaggerated for better visibility.
I then went back and changed the temperature only of the cloud shadows to this, by clicking on the mask, and using the temperature sliders only (no need to touch the mask), and got this.
Again these are exaggerated changes for clarity, and rather down and dirty selections with very little refinement. I should add that each mask in LR has the ability to refine with wide range of options from broad selections like sky, subject, etc, to things like more luminosity masking, color ranges, gradients etc. giving you unlimited editing options. As to the last sentence in the quote,it appears to me that LR could easily and quickly do the change you made, plus a whole lot more.
In that thread @Ysarex said the following " C1 also uses a layer model. The two changes I made to that file were to open an already existing layer that contained a mask for the sky and I decided to darken the sky a little more. The big change was to create a new luminosity layer for the shadow area of the image and set a different WB for only the shadows (something LR can't do by the way)." I respect Joe on his knowledge on the technical side, but I'm going to disagree with the last part of this. The relatively recent addition of masking/layers in LR has changed the playing field considerably on what you can do non-destructively.
This first image is a completely unedited file of a shot from the Smokies.
Going back to Joe's statement "The two changes I made to that file were to open an already existing layer that contained a mask for the sky and I decided to darken the sky a little more. The big change was to create a new luminosity layer for the shadow area of the image and set a different WB for only the shadows". Here is the above shot edited as I normally would, except with a color range mask, I could have used a luminosity mask but it would have required additional manual adjustment with a brush on the foreground, because of the similarity in the luminosity of the sky and foreground. I darkened only the sky, and changed the temperature of only the shadows of the clouds. It's exaggerated for better visibility.
I then went back and changed the temperature only of the cloud shadows to this, by clicking on the mask, and using the temperature sliders only (no need to touch the mask), and got this.
Again these are exaggerated changes for clarity, and rather down and dirty selections with very little refinement. I should add that each mask in LR has the ability to refine with wide range of options from broad selections like sky, subject, etc, to things like more luminosity masking, color ranges, gradients etc. giving you unlimited editing options. As to the last sentence in the quote,it appears to me that LR could easily and quickly do the change you made, plus a whole lot more.
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