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My method is to do several emails back and forth. if you really pay attention to how someone responds to you, it can give you a good impression of wether or not they will show. The one girl I was concerned about being a no show I had another girl come as well. first girl flaked like I assumed and the second girl showed up and was great. Things like if it takes them a long amount of time to respond. If they respond with short sentances and don't answer all your questions, are they giving you imput into what there hoping to get out of it. all things that will give you a good idea of who the person is.
 
usually your first shoot is the hardest to get off of there. after that it seems to go a lot easier, I have worked with half a dozen girls from there and have only had one that was a nightmare. I found I got the best responces by posting up a casting call. I use them for practicing with basically. working on my lighthing and posing. It's been great for me.

ModelMayem is great... but you do have to know how to use it.

I had little success with casting calls, but I did a lot better searching the models I found interesting and messaging them directly.

It's best if you have some specific shoot in mind. Be sure to talk about what they have (clothes and makeup) and what you want them to bring.

The models get bombarded w/ creepy photographers (not always guys either) so do what you can not be one of them. And even in NY, it's a small pool, so don't pee in it, if you know what I mean. If you ruin your reputation, it will be very hard to find models in the future. The models ALL seem to know each other w/ few degrees of separation, and they TALK to each other about photographers. This means if the model feels creeped out, they will tell everyone they can, right or wrong, fair or not. Don't stand models up, don't offer to pay and then stiff them... this is all common sense... but you'll be stunned at the stories you hear once you start meeting people in this "business".

I was always TFP. Some will do it, some wont. Expect starry eyed wannabes... but they are generally willing and often have good ideas to add.

In NYC I didn't need to pay expenses, but elsewhere you might want to at least pay for gas (depending on how much value you are giving the models in trade).

You can find me there w/ the same screen name, but I haven't been shooting so I'm not that active on the site lately.
 
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usually your first shoot is the hardest to get off of there. after that it seems to go a lot easier, I have worked with half a dozen girls from there and have only had one that was a nightmare. I found I got the best responces by posting up a casting call. I use them for practicing with basically. working on my lighthing and posing. It's been great for me.

ModelMayem is great... but you do have to know how to use it.

I had little success with casting calls, but I did a lot better searching the models I found interesting and messaging them directly.

It's best if you have some specific shoot in mind. Be sure to talk about what they have (clothes and makeup) and what you want them to bring.

The models get bombarded w/ creepy photographers (not always guys either) so do what you can not be one of them. And even in NY, it's a small pool, so don't pee in it, if you know what I mean. If you ruin your reputation, it will be very hard to find models in the future. The models ALL seem to know either other w/ few degrees of separation, and they TALK to each other about photographers. This means if the model feels creeped out, they will tell everyone they can, right or wrong, fair or not. Don't stand models up, don't offer to pay and then stiff them... this is all common sense... but you'll be stunned at the stories you hear once you start meeting people in this "business".

I was always TFP. Some will do it, some wont. Expect starry eyed wannabes... but they are generally willing and often have good ideas to add.

In NYC I didn't need to pay expenses, but elsewhere you might want to at least pay for gas (depending on how much value you are giving the models in trade).

You can find me there w/ the same screen name, but I haven't been shooting so I'm not that active on the site lately.


See with me it was the exact opposite. could be just in the approach you use. One great point you brought up is having an idea in your head of what your wanting to shoot. Most of the models ive talked to will all ask you what your idea is, most of them want to get in on fun creative style shoots. If you go in with an idea and some thought allready in place of what you want you will have a better shot. I will also work with them to try and find things they need to add to there portfolio that they dont have. If I go thru a girls portfolio and she has mostly all bikini shots, i'll say lets not even bother with bikini shots because you allready have a ton of those. lets get you something you don't have.

And you are right. There are a ton of shady photographers out there and treat models like crap. it really doesnt take much on you part to win them over. Just treat them good, be professional and take it seriously. There are a lot of people out there who will tell you to not even bother doing TFP that you should always charge. but I have gotten paying customers from 2 of the girls Ive shot with from MM.
 
I'm echoing everyone else. I use it... I've had a 50-50 flake rate and, yes, you can always tell of they're going to flake based on responses.

As soon as someone says they're interested, phone numbers are exchanged. They don't wanna give me their number, I don't shoot with them.

If the shoot is farther out, I confirm two weeks out... Then the week of... Then 2 days before.

If they fail to confirm closer to the date, I write them off, cause they're gonna flake. I've never been wrong about who was gonna flake yet, haha.

You'll start noticing patterns.
 
Nothing ever for me at MM. But your a pro, with a beautiful book and are in a big city. You should do great!

Good luck!



E.Rose...WOW, great pix at your sites!
 
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I'm echoing everyone else. I use it... I've had a 50-50 flake rate and, yes, you can always tell of they're going to flake based on responses.

As soon as someone says they're interested, phone numbers are exchanged. They don't wanna give me their number, I don't shoot with them.

If the shoot is farther out, I confirm two weeks out... Then the week of... Then 2 days before.

If they fail to confirm closer to the date, I write them off, cause they're gonna flake. I've never been wrong about who was gonna flake yet, haha.

You'll start noticing patterns.

Lol I did not flake out, you said blonde, woman, short. I'm tall, dark, male with raven black hair and I got booted :P.
 
I logged into MM and went to your profile, but I cant for the life of me find any "add friend" button ?!?!
 
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now it says some ish about reactivating my account... except my profile is still visible. wtf?
 
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Found you. . . next question. . . everyone post I make, my avi does not show, just a blue box with a question mark?? Is that some sort of newbie status?
 
Did you designate an image to be your profile picture? My Stuff > Manage Photos > find an image and select the "set as avatar" button. Sometimes it takes a minute to refresh.
 

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