Need some website C&C please!

[Joshua_Lee]

I need some C&C on my photography Facebook fan page! It needs something more, but I just can't decide what to do. Please help, here is the link Joshua Lee Photography | Facebook

You don't have to, but if you like it, please become a fan/like! Thanks for your help and support!

Josh

 

[SabrinaO]

Maybe adding PHOTOS on your FB from your shoots would help!

 

[robb01]

Learn FBML and make it unique; if you want some C&C on your actual site, please don't have it play music. And flash is not good for SEO

 

[SabrinaO]

Learn FBML and make it unique; if you want some C&C on your actual site, please don't have it play music. And flash is not good for SEO

What us FBML? HTML for facebook? What can be changed? And what is SEO?

 

[robb01]

facebook markup language, its html for facebook. You can totally re-design your facebook page.

Example

For example, you could design your own landing page, and it could be a banner w/ all your contact info.

 

[enzodm]

I answered to an identical post from you a couple of hours ago, now it disappeared: it has been perhaps cancelled by moderators due to spam? In that case, is not a wise idea to come back again.

Anyway, the comment is the same: why someone shoud be willing to become fan of a facebook page with just one picture representing a logo?

 

[Joshua_Lee]

I re posted it because it got whacked the first time! People post there websites on here all the time, so I didn't think they would consider my FB page Spam. What do you mean it's not wise? Will they kick me off TPF? For those that gave me some feedback thanks! Yeah I am on the fence about the music. Most people that I ask say keep the music. They are non photographers of course, but they are the audience I am going after. I am curious why flash is not the way to go? I am new to the Flash, html and other website forms. Would HTML be better for someone with limited experience in designing a website? Flash was just the easiest route to go.

As for the pictures, FB really kills the quality of the photo. I have a client proofing tab that I direct people to from my FB page that allows them to review my resent shoots by typing in the PW I give them. It also help drive traffic to my website. I wonder if they make an SEO book for dummies? I would really like play around with that! Thanks again for all the input!

"Anyway, the comment is the same: why someone should be willing to become fan of a facebook page with just one picture representing a logo?"

That is why I asked for peoples input, because I have never had a FB page before. To answer your above question, people do it everyday. I wanted to be different. Look at Dodge or anyone else. All they have is their logo and millions of people became fans of it. I want to be different. I thought about contests such as photo shoot giveaways etc.


Thanks,

Josh

 

[ababysean]

I could only spend about 3 seconds on your website because the music.
No music! and if you MUST have music, there needs to be a clear view on how to mute it. I could not find it on y our site so I had to close it before I even got to look at the photos

 

[Joshua_Lee]

I could only spend about 3 seconds on your website because the music.
No music! and if you MUST have music, there needs to be a clear view on how to mute it. I could not find it on y our site so I had to close it before I even got to look at the photos

It is the music note in the bottom right hand corner of the screen. When you click on it the music stops. Sorry you didn't like the music.

I don't get it, of the most successful photographers in my area , they all seem to have music playing on their websites. Not saying that music is tied to their success or anything, but that well known artist/photographers tend to lean towards the music. My target audience is 18-45. There is a dislike on this forum for music that I don't understand.

 

[Boomn4x4]

A few reasons flash is not preferred. First of all, flash can slow down the browser. If a customer clicks on it, and their browser takes some time to load the flash, they could go away. People expect fast results when browsing the Internet...flash can be a discouragement, especially if the flash isn't something they were looking for in the first place.

More importantly, flash is not indexed by search engines. Search engines use HTML code to determine what is on a webpage, how important it is, how relevant it is, and how often the web page is updated. All of those things lead to the website getting indexed higher resulting in more page hits. Flash is completly unreadable to a search engine. It has to rely on typically static content to determine what the site is about and what people to direct there. Want an example? Go to your website, then click in the browser's menu "View" -> "Source" This will bring up the code to your website as the search engine see's it. It will probably not make much sense to you, but look for keywords that stand out. (hint, there aren't any).

To save you the effort, here it is, and I've highlighted in red keywords that help the serach engines determine what is on your site. Again, don't worry about all the technical jargon... just see if you can spot keywords that would let someone know what is on that web page:
<html>
<head>
<link rel="shortcut icon" href="./v1site_images/favicon.ico" type="image/vnd.microsoft.icon">
<link rel="icon" href="./v1site_images/favicon.ico" type="image/vnd.microsoft.icon">
<title></title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name="keywords" content="">
<meta name="description" content="">

<script type="text/javascript" src="flashobject.js"></script>

<script type="text/javascript" language="javascript">
function setSize(){
var win_w;
var win_h;
var max_h = 700;
var max_w = 1000;
var browser = navigator.appName;
if (browser == "Microsoft Internet Explorer"){ //IE and Opera
win_w = document.body.offsetWidth;
win_h = document.body.offsetHeight;
if (win_w > max_w){
window.document.getElementById("website").width = "100%";
} else {
window.document.getElementById("website").width = "1000";
}

if (win_h > max_h){
window.document.getElementById("website").height = "100%";
} else {
window.document.getElementById("website").height = "700";
}
} else { //Netscape and Mozilla
win_w = window.innerWidth;
win_h = window.innerHeight;
if (win_w > max_w){
window.document.website.width = "100%";
} else {
window.document.website.width = "1000";
}

if (win_h > max_h){
window.document.website.height = "100%";
} else {
window.document.website.height = "700";
}
}
}
</script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="swfobject/swfobject.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="swfaddress/swfaddress.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="swfobject/swfmacmousewheel.js"></script>
</head>
<body scroll="auto" onLoad="javascript:setSize( );" onResize="javascript:setSize(0 );" bgcolor="#ffffff" link="#ffffff" vlink="#ffffff" alink="#ffffff" topmargin="0" bottommargin="0" marginheight="0" leftmargin="0" rightmargin="0" marginwidth="0" >
<div id="flashcontent">
</div>
<script type="text/javascript">
// <![CDATA[
var fo = new FlashObject("projectone.swf", "website", "100%", "100%", "8", "#ffffff");
fo.useExpressInstall('swfobject/expressinstall.swf');
fo.addVariable("btnColor", "ffffff");
fo.addVariable("btnBgColor", "d1d1d1");
fo.addVariable("bgColor", "ffffff");
fo.addVariable("logoBoxColor", "ffffff");
fo.addVariable("imgBorderColor", "cccccc");
fo.addVariable("subBtnColor", "ffffff");
fo.addVariable("subBtnBg", "8b8b8b");
fo.addVariable("accentColor", "ffffff");
fo.addVariable("mainColor", "cccccc");
fo.addVariable("frameColor", "ffffff");
fo.addVariable("txtColor", "ffffff");
fo.addVariable("jukeboxColor", "8b8b8b");
fo.addVariable("slideCtrlColor", "ffffff");
fo.addVariable("logoColor", "575757");
fo.addVariable("logo2Color", "5D453D");
fo.addVariable("logo3Color", "ffffff");
fo.addVariable("gradientColor", "");
fo.addVariable("logoAccentColor", "");
fo.addVariable("loadingLoColor", "8b8b8b");
fo.addVariable("loadingHiColor", "ffffff");
fo.addVariable("imageBackColor", "ffffff");
fo.addVariable("imageTextColor", "8b8b8b");
fo.addVariable("shopColor", "8b8b8b");
fo.addVariable("graphicColor", "d1d1d1");
fo.addVariable("accentTxtColor", "ffffff");
fo.addVariable("bgType", "");
fo.addVariable("MenuType", "horizontal");
fo.addVariable("menuPosition", "TL");
fo.addVariable("logoPosition", "TR");
fo.addVariable("thumbPosition", "");
fo.addVariable("JukeboxPosition", "");
fo.addVariable("logoJustification", "left");
fo.addVariable("ScaleSite", "1");
fo.addVariable("borderType", "simple");
fo.addVariable("use_backgrounds", "yes");
fo.addVariable("Background", "yes");
fo.addVariable("MenuType", "horizontal");
fo.addVariable("ColorShift", "0");
fo.addVariable("ColorShiftInterface", "0");
fo.addVariable("ColorShiftLogo", "0");
fo.addVariable("ImageWidth", "1600");
fo.addVariable("ImageHeight", "1063");
fo.addVariable("BorderSpacing", "0");
fo.addVariable("ButtonSpacing", "16");
fo.addVariable("SubButtonSpacing", "1");
fo.addVariable("initColor", "");
fo.addVariable("initColorChanging", "");
fo.addVariable("initColorR", "0");
fo.addVariable("initColorG", "0");
fo.addVariable("initColorB", "0");
fo.addVariable("siteV", "v1");
fo.addVariable("dir", ".");
fo.addVariable("address", "www.joshualeephoto.com/index2.php");
fo.addVariable("MetaTitle", "");
fo.addVariable("UseTilt", "0");
fo.addVariable("ShowThumbs", "0");
fo.addVariable("BgType", "");
fo.addParam("allowScriptAccess", "always");
fo.addParam("scale", "noscale");
fo.addParam("menu", "false");
fo.addParam("allowfullscreen", "true");
fo.write("flashcontent");
if( fo.write('flashcontent') )
{
var macmousewheel = new SWFMacMouseWheel( fo );
}
// ]]>
</script>

</body>
</html>



Now go to a popular photography website... www.kenrockwell.com is one that comes to mind quick.... Now, click on "View" -> "Source" for that web site... Here is just the first few lines of the code from his site with keywords highlighted in red:

<html>
<head>
<title>KenRockwell.com</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
<LINK REL="SHORTCUT ICON" HREF="index/favicon.ico">
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS"
href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/rss-daily.php" />
<style>
A {text-decoration : none; color : #777777;}

A:Active {text-decoration : none; color : #FF0000;}

A:Hover {text-decoration : none; color : #FF0000;}
</style>

<style type="text/css">
body {font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;}
</style>

</head>
<body leftmargin="0" onLoad="">
<table width="600" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td>
<form action="https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr" method="post">
<p align="center" style="clear:left;"><b><font size="+4">Ken Rockwell&nbsp;</font></b><a href="/rss-daily.php">RSS</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;
<input type="hidden" name="cmd" value="_xclick">
<input type="hidden" name="business" value="[email protected]">
<input type="hidden" name="no_note" value="1">
<input type="hidden" name="currency_code" value="USD">
<input type="hidden" name="tax" value="0">
<input type="image" src="https://www.paypal.com/en_US/i/btn/x-click-but21.gif" border="0" name="submit" alt="Make payments with PayPal - it's fast, free and secure!">
</p>
</form>
<p align="center"><a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/recommended-cameras.htm"><b>Recommended Cameras</b></a> <b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/00-new-today.htm">What's New</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://kenrockwell.com/deals.htm">Deals</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech.htm">Taking Better Pictures</a></b></p>
<p align="center"><b><a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/gallery.htm">Gallery</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/about.htm">About</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/donate.htm">Help me help you</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="clear:left;"><a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/index/languages.htm">Languages</a></span> &nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/contact.htm">Contact</a></b></p>
<p align="center"><b><a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/index.htm">Nikon</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/index.htm">Canon</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/index.htm">Leica</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="/contax/g-system.htm">Contax G</a> &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://kenrockwell.com/konica/index.htm">Konica</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://kenrockwell.com/zeiss/index.htm">Zeiss</a></b></p>
<p align="center"><b><a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/mamiya/index.htm">Mamiya</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="/olympus/index.htm">Olympus</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/pentax/index.htm">Pentax</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="/minolta/index.htm">Minolta</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="/schneider/index.htm">Schneider</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</b><a href="How to Take Better Pictures>
<p align="center"><b><a href="http://kenrockwell.com/voigtlander/index.htm">Voigtl&auml;nder</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</b><b><a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/books.htm">Books</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/links.htm">Links</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/cars/index.htm">Cars</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/hdtv/index.htm">HDTV</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/workshop.htm">Workshops</a></b></p>

If you were a search engine...and someone was seraching for "Photography" where would you take them?

 

[Joshua_Lee]

Boomn4X4, thanks for the input! Is it possible to give an HTML website the same layout as the flash. I.e. the pictures flashing up, or do you just get a stagnant gallery that you manually have to flip through? Sorry for the ingnorant sounding questions, I am new to the website world. haha

 

[robb01]

Sure, you could do a wordpress style site with a lightbox of different photos. Im a huge advocate of wordpress, as its ease of use is top notch.

 

[Joshua_Lee]

Sure, you could do a wordpress style site with a lightbox of different photos. Im a huge advocate of wordpress, as its ease of use is top notch.

I didn't even think about Wordpress. Shows what I know. I thought it was mainly a bloggers type website format. Thanks for the advice! I will look in to it!

 

[o hey tyler]

First of all, it's an awful idea not to have PHOTOS on a facebook PHOTOGRAPHY page. Resize them to 720px on the longest edge and they'll be serviceable.

Secondly, you'll find a dislike for music on websites in a lot of places. Not everyone has the same taste as you, especially in the "target audience" of 18-45. You can appeal to a lot more people by simply having a divers portfolio and not trying to have an extravagant website.

 

[Joshua_Lee]

Dang, Awful is a harsh word to use. haha Yes, I could resize them and I may. This is why I asked for your opinions. Thanks for your help! To the person who suggested me researching FBML, THANK YOU! This is great stuff!