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[idkman]

You don't need a more expensive camera to enjoy photography.
Many people use a sub $200 camera and like it.
If she want to pursue it, then you could look for a more advanced camera.
Happy mariage.
Rudi

Thanks for being positive. thats what im saying i want. i really dont see why it wouldnt work that way. you try things then build up, not blow a bunch of money then decide its not worth it. i dont see the reasoning.

 

[rudimaes]

To proof my statement, that people can like a cheap camera, then read the user reviews of this camera:
Amazon.com Samsung EC-WB350FBPBUS 16.3Digital Camera with 21x Optical Image Stabilized Zoom with 3-Inch LCD Black Camera Photo
Rudi

 

[ceejtank]

No ones saying you cant like a camera under $200. We said if she's going to use it as a professional camera, or as a learning camera, you should get one you can actually learn on.

 

[rudimaes]

The Samsung WB350f has PASM modes, so she can start learning more advanced settings is she wants to,
at a reasonable price.
Rudi

 

[Designer]

Well i have a budget and i cant afford to spend much more than that. so you're basically saying if i cant afford more i shouldn't bother?

I'm saying that your budget doesn't match your goals.

If her goal is to become a professional, you're going to need to aim higher.

 

[idkman]

No ones saying you cant like a camera under $200. We said if she's going to use it as a professional camera, or as a learning camera, you should get one you can actually learn on.

I just disagree that you have to spend more money to get something usable

Well i have a budget and i cant afford to spend much more than that. so you're basically saying if i cant afford more i shouldn't bother?

I'm saying that your budget doesn't match your goals.

If her goal is to become a professional, you're going to need to aim higher.

My goal is to get a her a camera to start out with and see where she wants to go from there if she even does want to go from there. wasting a bunch of money doesnt accomplish my goal either soooo

 

[Derrel]

Does she want to learn how to operate a camera? Or does she want to learn how to do photography? Or does she want to learn how to set apertures and shutter speeds and focus point? All three of those are different things.

The Samsung camera mentioned above has an AMAZING amount of technology built into it....near-field communication with smart phone, remote viewfinder (I assume linking the camera's lens view to that of the nearby smartphone's display!!!), a 21x zoom lens, remote control via phone,easy uploads and links to the internet, and a wonderful body shape and size, "borrowed" from the earliest successful 35mm film cameras, the 1930's Leicas, with the rounded ends and the simple "soap bar style" of body that makes carrying the camera and holding it very nice. That little Samsung has so much technology in it that, 10 years ago, **if** such things had been possible, that would have been a $4,999 camera.

Figure out what her goal really is. As far as dumping a bunch of money into a camera, in photography "a bunch of money" is not $200, but is more like $3,500 and up. if she want to learn photography, any camera will do, even a simple compact. A Canon G12, something lik that, is actually a VERY capable, wonderfully designed camera with the type of controls a real Leica used to use--only BETTER. If she wants a d-slr, the used ones or the older models are fine. No need to spend all that much. If she hopes to make photography into a serious hobby or side business, a mod-level Canon or Nikon is the easiest solution, but that takes two lenses and a good flash, software, and a bit of skill, practice, learning, and so on.

 

[ceejtank]

No ones saying you cant like a camera under $200. We said if she's going to use it as a professional camera, or as a learning camera, you should get one you can actually learn on.

I just disagree that you have to spend more money to get something usable

Well i have a budget and i cant afford to spend much more than that. so you're basically saying if i cant afford more i shouldn't bother?

I'm saying that your budget doesn't match your goals.

If her goal is to become a professional, you're going to need to aim higher.

My goal is to get a her a camera to start out with and see where she wants to go from there if she even does want to go from there. wasting a bunch of money doesnt accomplish my goal either soooo

Usable vs what you're looking for are different things.

 

[idkman]

Does she want to learn how to operate a camera? Or does she want to learn how to do photography? Or does she want to learn how to set apertures and shutter speeds and focus point? All three of those are different things.

The Samsung camera mentioned above has an AMAZING amount of technology built into it....near-field communication with smart phone, remote viewfinder (I assume linking the camera's lens view to that of the nearby smartphone's display!!!), a 21x zoom lens, remote control via phone,easy uploads and links to the internet, and a wonderful body shape and size, "borrowed" from the earliest successful 35mm film cameras, the 1930's Leicas, with the rounded ends and the simple "soap bar style" of body that makes carrying the camera and holding it very nice. That little Samsung has so much technology in it that, 10 years ago, **if** such things had been possible, that would have been a $4,999 camera.

Figure out what her goal really is. As far as dumping a bunch of money into a camera, in photography "a bunch of money" is not $200, but is more like $3,500 and up. if she want to learn photography, any camera will do, even a simple compact. A Canon G12, something lik that, is actually a VERY capable, wonderfully designed camera with the type of controls a real Leica used to use--only BETTER. If she wants a d-slr, the used ones or the older models are fine. No need to spend all that much. If she hopes to make photography into a serious hobby or side business, a mod-level Canon or Nikon is the easiest solution, but that takes two lenses and a good flash, software, and a bit of skill, practice, learning, and so on.

Very Valid points. I think something everyone here is missing is that this camera is to be a beginner for all those things. but she has a little experience too. Im not saying shes going to be a pro with the camera i get her now. Im saying its to get the basics and we'll move move up from there if we so choose. & no $200 really isnt. but for me $500 is. that samsung one is awesome though and im thinking thats what ill want for her. See, no need to spend 500 bucks when that one is awesome and has lots of features to start off with. I think whats happened here is everyone is saying what they would do and what i need based on that but you're already advanced so its easy for you to say oh you need to go bigger and better but at this level thats not needed in my opinion. i'm not saying anyone is wrong, im saying what i can afford and what she needs leaves me with not many options especially in the high dollar range. then as time goes and it makes sense to she can upgrade.

 

[idkman]

No ones saying you cant like a camera under $200. We said if she's going to use it as a professional camera, or as a learning camera, you should get one you can actually learn on.

I just disagree that you have to spend more money to get something usable

Well i have a budget and i cant afford to spend much more than that. so you're basically saying if i cant afford more i shouldn't bother?

I'm saying that your budget doesn't match your goals.

If her goal is to become a professional, you're going to need to aim higher.

My goal is to get a her a camera to start out with and see where she wants to go from there if she even does want to go from there. wasting a bunch of money doesnt accomplish my goal either soooo

Usable vs what you're looking for are different things.

I obviously meant usable to the extent and on the level of WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR....

 

[ceejtank]

No ones saying you cant like a camera under $200. We said if she's going to use it as a professional camera, or as a learning camera, you should get one you can actually learn on.

I just disagree that you have to spend more money to get something usable

Well i have a budget and i cant afford to spend much more than that. so you're basically saying if i cant afford more i shouldn't bother?

I'm saying that your budget doesn't match your goals.

If her goal is to become a professional, you're going to need to aim higher.

My goal is to get a her a camera to start out with and see where she wants to go from there if she even does want to go from there. wasting a bunch of money doesnt accomplish my goal either soooo

Usable vs what you're looking for are different things.

I obviously meant usable to the extent and on the level of WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR....

Yes. we know. you're looking for a $200 camera that is "usable" without definining "usable" because you're not a photographer and don't know the capabilities of the cameras, so instead you're going to go to a internet forum and say "I'm only spending X amount of money - here are what i want accomplished" and you're ignoring what we're saying because it doesn't fit within your budget.

As I said - get any camera you want. The one that was suggested earlier will work fine. Anyone who keeps commenting on this thread at this point, is just going to be arguing with someone who isn't taking advice.

 

[idkman]

No ones saying you cant like a camera under $200. We said if she's going to use it as a professional camera, or as a learning camera, you should get one you can actually learn on.

I just disagree that you have to spend more money to get something usable

Well i have a budget and i cant afford to spend much more than that. so you're basically saying if i cant afford more i shouldn't bother?

I'm saying that your budget doesn't match your goals.

If her goal is to become a professional, you're going to need to aim higher.

My goal is to get a her a camera to start out with and see where she wants to go from there if she even does want to go from there. wasting a bunch of money doesnt accomplish my goal either soooo

Usable vs what you're looking for are different things.

I obviously meant usable to the extent and on the level of WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR....

Yes. we know. you're looking for a $200 camera that is "usable" without definining "usable" because you're not a photographer and don't know the capabilities of the cameras, so instead you're going to go to a internet forum and say "I'm only spending X amount of money - here are what i want accomplished" and you're ignoring what we're saying because it doesn't fit within your budget.

As I said - get any camera you want. The one that was suggested earlier will work fine. Anyone who keeps commenting on this thread at this point, is just going to be arguing with someone who isn't taking advice.

almost all advice ive gotten is useless here. i said i have a budget. that means nobody should have commented on it with anything above my budget point because thats not what i asked for. and what do you know, someone found one in my budget with lots of features. props to that guy for reading the OP. apparently you didnt do that.

 

[ceejtank]

No ones saying you cant like a camera under $200. We said if she's going to use it as a professional camera, or as a learning camera, you should get one you can actually learn on.

I just disagree that you have to spend more money to get something usable

Well i have a budget and i cant afford to spend much more than that. so you're basically saying if i cant afford more i shouldn't bother?

I'm saying that your budget doesn't match your goals.

If her goal is to become a professional, you're going to need to aim higher.

My goal is to get a her a camera to start out with and see where she wants to go from there if she even does want to go from there. wasting a bunch of money doesnt accomplish my goal either soooo

Usable vs what you're looking for are different things.

I obviously meant usable to the extent and on the level of WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR....

Yes. we know. you're looking for a $200 camera that is "usable" without definining "usable" because you're not a photographer and don't know the capabilities of the cameras, so instead you're going to go to a internet forum and say "I'm only spending X amount of money - here are what i want accomplished" and you're ignoring what we're saying because it doesn't fit within your budget.

As I said - get any camera you want. The one that was suggested earlier will work fine. Anyone who keeps commenting on this thread at this point, is just going to be arguing with someone who isn't taking advice.

almost all advice ive gotten is useless here. i said i have a budget. that means nobody should have commented on it with anything above my budget point because thats not what i asked for. and what do you know, someone found one in my budget with lots of features. props to that guy for reading the OP. apparently you didnt do that.

actually if you read my earlier posts. i gave you many suggestions. and then some general advice. i'm sure you'll do great. enjoy the camera.

 

[idkman]

A budget is a budget for a reason. obviously im ignoring stupid recommendations because they're not a possibility. "spend more money" is not helpful. I said that to begin with. obviously i would ignore everything that was posted from people ignoring me

 

[idkman]

No ones saying you cant like a camera under $200. We said if she's going to use it as a professional camera, or as a learning camera, you should get one you can actually learn on.

I just disagree that you have to spend more money to get something usable

I'm saying that your budget doesn't match your goals.

If her goal is to become a professional, you're going to need to aim higher.

My goal is to get a her a camera to start out with and see where she wants to go from there if she even does want to go from there. wasting a bunch of money doesnt accomplish my goal either soooo

Usable vs what you're looking for are different things.

I obviously meant usable to the extent and on the level of WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR....

Yes. we know. you're looking for a $200 camera that is "usable" without definining "usable" because you're not a photographer and don't know the capabilities of the cameras, so instead you're going to go to a internet forum and say "I'm only spending X amount of money - here are what i want accomplished" and you're ignoring what we're saying because it doesn't fit within your budget.

As I said - get any camera you want. The one that was suggested earlier will work fine. Anyone who keeps commenting on this thread at this point, is just going to be arguing with someone who isn't taking advice.

almost all advice ive gotten is useless here. i said i have a budget. that means nobody should have commented on it with anything above my budget point because thats not what i asked for. and what do you know, someone found one in my budget with lots of features. props to that guy for reading the OP. apparently you didnt do that.

actually if you read my earlier posts. i gave you many suggestions. and then some general advice. i'm sure you'll do great. enjoy the camera.

I liked your suggestion and appreciate the help. Then you stopped being helpful and started being a prick because i cant afford more. well good for you for making a lot of money, but i dont.