Silverpenguin
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I spent the day in a valley in the Peak District two days ago with my friends dad, following Dippers up and down a river.
He was armed with his 600 f4, attached to his D2h (I wondered why he wasn't taking the 'x' until we got there, its amazing how much faster 8fps is over 5!!!) and I of course had my D200 but he gave me his 200-400 for the day, woohoo.
First of all let me say although this thing seems big when your at home, once your outside it suddenly seems quite acceptable, and when placed next to the 600 f4 it looks tiny lol. The lens is fantastic to use though, very fast and accurate to focus and very manageable on a tripod - although I had an Arca Swiss ball head on the top of my tripod for the day, which is another fantastic accesory I think I'll be getting one day.
The weight side of things I thought would be a problem at first. When we packed our stuff up in the morning I had the 200-400, my D200 and my 12-24 all in a Lowepro Dryzone bag and it did feel pretty heavy to lift but once it was on my back it was fine and I didn't notice it. We walked about 4 miles in total and most of the time I was carrying the lens/camera tripod mounted with it slung over my shoulder. I didn't find it too much of a problem and I'm not the words strongest man lol. I will say my shoulder ached a little by the end of the day though.
VRII works very well on a tripod too, as I was using the ball head I had it set farily loose so I could move the camera around easily whilst trying to follow small birds. VR elimated any small movement quite nicely. Of course I would have prefered faster shutter speeds and to not use VR but it was quite dark down in the valley in places and so I couldn't.
Even with a TC on the lens was fast to focus too which was good, although late in the day as the clouds came out and the light dropped it started to struggle on the outside sensors but thats more of a D200 issue than anything else I guess.
The downer to my day was that when I got back last night and checked my pictures, very very few of them are any good. But its not because the lens is lacking, its because most of the time I had a 1.4 TC attached to it, so I was shooting at 550mm (thats 825mm effectively remember boys and girls) with shutter speeds of between 1/40 and 1/80 of a second at ISO400, so my subjects were mostly moving too fast for any real good keepers. Well thats what I thought at first but having gone back over them all the following day I think a large part of the truth is I have come to realise my long lens technique needs improving as a lot of my blurred shots actually did have enough shutter speed. This was the first time I have used a true BIG long lens and so I think its just something I need practice at. The performance with the TC I think will be excellent once I learn how to use it!
Quick pic taken with my phone of the two beasts together, 200-400 on the left:
Proper pics to follow later.
Here are the pics, not all as bad as I thought when I first checked them but then that first time I was checking them at 1am after having having driven 350 miles and walked 4 miles lugging the camera around lol.
All of the Dipper shots have been cropped by between roughly %20-40 as they were just a little too far away and they aren't big!
400mm, 1/80 sec at f5. ISO100
%50 crop of above with %50 USM:
550mm (using 1.4 TC), 1/100 sec at f5.6 ISO100
%100 crop of above with %50 USM:
550mm, 1/320 sec at f5.6, ISO320
550mm, 1/500 sec at f5.6, ISO400
550mm, 1/400 sec at f5.6, ISO400
Grey Wagtail I think these are called?
550mm, 1/60 sec at f5.6, ISO400
This one posed on a waterfall for a few second for me:
(%50 crop from original frame) 550mm, 1/80 second at f5.6, ISO125
And said waterfall:
Didn't have enough filter power to get a slow enough shutter speed for this unfortunately
My friends dad, armed with the 600mm:
So there we have it. And I have a sneaky feeling I may well own a 200-400 by the end of the summer...lol
He was armed with his 600 f4, attached to his D2h (I wondered why he wasn't taking the 'x' until we got there, its amazing how much faster 8fps is over 5!!!) and I of course had my D200 but he gave me his 200-400 for the day, woohoo.
First of all let me say although this thing seems big when your at home, once your outside it suddenly seems quite acceptable, and when placed next to the 600 f4 it looks tiny lol. The lens is fantastic to use though, very fast and accurate to focus and very manageable on a tripod - although I had an Arca Swiss ball head on the top of my tripod for the day, which is another fantastic accesory I think I'll be getting one day.
The weight side of things I thought would be a problem at first. When we packed our stuff up in the morning I had the 200-400, my D200 and my 12-24 all in a Lowepro Dryzone bag and it did feel pretty heavy to lift but once it was on my back it was fine and I didn't notice it. We walked about 4 miles in total and most of the time I was carrying the lens/camera tripod mounted with it slung over my shoulder. I didn't find it too much of a problem and I'm not the words strongest man lol. I will say my shoulder ached a little by the end of the day though.
VRII works very well on a tripod too, as I was using the ball head I had it set farily loose so I could move the camera around easily whilst trying to follow small birds. VR elimated any small movement quite nicely. Of course I would have prefered faster shutter speeds and to not use VR but it was quite dark down in the valley in places and so I couldn't.
Even with a TC on the lens was fast to focus too which was good, although late in the day as the clouds came out and the light dropped it started to struggle on the outside sensors but thats more of a D200 issue than anything else I guess.
The downer to my day was that when I got back last night and checked my pictures, very very few of them are any good. But its not because the lens is lacking, its because most of the time I had a 1.4 TC attached to it, so I was shooting at 550mm (thats 825mm effectively remember boys and girls) with shutter speeds of between 1/40 and 1/80 of a second at ISO400, so my subjects were mostly moving too fast for any real good keepers. Well thats what I thought at first but having gone back over them all the following day I think a large part of the truth is I have come to realise my long lens technique needs improving as a lot of my blurred shots actually did have enough shutter speed. This was the first time I have used a true BIG long lens and so I think its just something I need practice at. The performance with the TC I think will be excellent once I learn how to use it!
Quick pic taken with my phone of the two beasts together, 200-400 on the left:

Proper pics to follow later.
Here are the pics, not all as bad as I thought when I first checked them but then that first time I was checking them at 1am after having having driven 350 miles and walked 4 miles lugging the camera around lol.
All of the Dipper shots have been cropped by between roughly %20-40 as they were just a little too far away and they aren't big!

400mm, 1/80 sec at f5. ISO100
%50 crop of above with %50 USM:


550mm (using 1.4 TC), 1/100 sec at f5.6 ISO100
%100 crop of above with %50 USM:


550mm, 1/320 sec at f5.6, ISO320

550mm, 1/500 sec at f5.6, ISO400

550mm, 1/400 sec at f5.6, ISO400
Grey Wagtail I think these are called?

550mm, 1/60 sec at f5.6, ISO400
This one posed on a waterfall for a few second for me:

(%50 crop from original frame) 550mm, 1/80 second at f5.6, ISO125
And said waterfall:

Didn't have enough filter power to get a slow enough shutter speed for this unfortunately
My friends dad, armed with the 600mm:

So there we have it. And I have a sneaky feeling I may well own a 200-400 by the end of the summer...lol